Lol love your direct response. Thank you for the laugh.
Oh crud ! sorry if it sounded rude lmao . Youâre welcome.
Nope not rude at all.
Canât pin this topic anymore.
41.63% pickrate in GM, lol. Still #1 hero overall. Has never left the meta since her rework.
But whatever, Mercy is fine, sweep this one under the rug, right?
Oooh, they unpinned it again? This should be interesting, they really will do anything to not address the mistake that is the Mercy rework wonât they?
See, I think thereâs less of a problem with Mercy right now (in fact Iâd want more of a change on her rez speed), and more making healers be able to keep up with her healing wise. Specifically, Ana.
Mercyâs supposed to be the primary healer that can rule the battle field: she accels in that position. And most of the metas ask for that since the beginning. I donât see her going away unless you nerf her into the ground to the point where sheâs not usable: and I donât think thatâs healthy either.
Iâd have to disagree there.
Mercy, from the beginning, was a simplistic healer that was easy to pick up for a new support player. Hence her one star difficulty rating, and then the fact that prior to the rework she was entirely a low ranked healer.
She was your starter healer.
But when it came to other healers, like Ana, Ana would be better because if you learned her she was extremely effective, had okay heals compared to Mercy in the right hands, and had better utility.
The more skillful support was used in higher ranks, which I think we can agree, was a good thing.
But on the meta part, thatâs precisely what I see partly is wrong with Mercy 2.0. You shouldnât have to nerf someone into the floor to make other heroes slightly visible. Buff Ana as much as you want, but it wonât change the fact that Mercy has easier heals, and with E rez AND Valkyrie, much better utility.
So then your only option is to nerf Mercy into uselessness, which, of course, is no good.
There just isnât a good way to navigate balance with this Mercy, and how she compares to other healers. Iâd hate to have to change Moira, who feels so perfectly balanced (Minus her barrier healing debacle) just to compete with Mercy.
Same can be said for Lucio, or Brigitte. Ana on her own could use buffs no matter what, but I think the other healers are very well composed in feel and balance.
mercy 3.0
60 -) 50 hps with beam
Rez: Removed
Valk: moved to e
5 seconds of free flight, chain beams do 50% of effect, ga range to 40, ult charge increased by 15%, 15 sec cooldown (33% uptime)
GA: same as 2.0
Ult: Lifeblood
Give every ally in a 10m range LoS a golden shield (like invulnerability after Rez) that PREVENTS death for 5 seconds, including mercy herself. Also grants bonus healing to everyone, and mercyâs Regen passive is uninterruptible during this period. Note that when this ult is used, no one gets any immediate healing.
Mercy without ress, guess.
Letâs remove Hanzo Bow while at it.
I disagree with that, and I point to another healer in another game: The Medic from TF2. He was the same thing: supposibly simple to play, with a game changing ability to effect the game. He was the only healer, and yet he was the most important part of the team in most cases. He was simple to pick up: but that one star rating is simple to pick. Like the Medic, being a fantastic mercy and a good mercy is a HUGE difference. Donât think youâve not played with a Mercy that has changed the game because of their battlefield perception: they can single handledly keep a team up when they are at their best.
But obviously this is a different game from TF2: but I think Mercyâs biggest reason why sheâs so reliant in the metas in 3 fold:
- Sheâs the most consistent healer
- Sheâs one of the most MOBILE healers
- Sheâs the best healer.
Hereâs the thing: Letâs think back to the last time when Mercy wasnât in the main rotation or the top of the meta. Itâs been a while, but I can think well past back before she got the buffs on 2.0: she was viable before, but the season when she definitely was less useful was the season when Ana/Reinhardt with boost was the most common combo. Now hereâs the thing, during that time, you had less tanks like Winston/Dâva soaking up tons of damage. The game revolved around a lot of reinhardt and anaâŚand specifically their movement together and the shield.
Hereâs the thing, since then, itâs been all about movement. Genji, Tracer, Winston, Dâva, everything was about Dive, or the ability to move fast at certain points. While Lucio was faster and Moira can get around: when it comes to get to ALL places on teh battle field, Mercy was the only one who could do it consistantly and provide the top line healing.
Now you may be saying to yourself: âWait Dragnix, now weâve got Mercy/Rein/Zen/Zarya/Hanzo/etc as the meta, why is Mercy so important in this one, those characters are less likely to be movement focused!â. Well, again, top line healing. The only ones who output the healing that Mercy does in theory is Ana, and MAYBE Moira. Anaâs problem is simple: her buffs havenât justified her over Mercy, mostly due to her self sustainability. Moiraâs problem is simple: That nerf regarding her and barriers. She can be easily stopped healing with barriers right now, and that kills her ability to play against a reinhardt when trying to heal your teammates near them. That, and if she runs out of juice in a fight, wellâŚyeah you canât have that right now in this meta.
No one was arguing about her being balanced. Itâs a problem that she is balanced, yes, but weâre not denying sheâs balanced.
Being balanced means sheâs boring and has nothing to offer other than the standard job for her role. Literally every other character has something to offer. Mercyâs only wild card is she can MAYBE rez ONE person every 30 seconds, but will most likely die trying.
Meaning we have the first iteration of mega Rez where Mercy was dying to use her Ult a majority of the time.
She is the ONLY hero whoâs ability heavily punishes you for using it at least 70-80% of the time (95% if youâre higher than Masters).
Mercy was only OP during Valkyrieâs starting days when she could rez one at a time in succession. Mega Rez had counter play if you actually used it instead of being a whiny potato. (Seriously, people never give most other heroes crap about wiping their team, but Mercy picks up 3 people? âOPOPOPOPNERFNERFNERFITNAOWBLIZâ)
We also never asked for invulnerability. Blizzard thought we needed it because of the Viking Funeral weâd have to go through when Mercy would rez. It needed some tweaks and the SR needed a serious overhaul; Mega Rez didnât need to be touched.
You wanna know why weâre so literal about it? Because having a dev and mod tell us in a side note that âthey think Mercyâs in a great place and have no intention of changing her in the near futureâ while simultaneously flinging out nerf after nerf because sheâs too OP NOW is insulting to our intelligence as gamers.
If you need to consecutively nerf something 8 times;
ITâS
NOT
FINE.
Iâm going to have to disregard your medic analogy, simply because the Medic is the only healer, and is much different than Mercy in design. Therefore, compared to Overwatch, where there are many healers, it doesnât compare.
And that used to be all there was to her. But with utility, she stomps out everyone else.
But onto your meta point, I still donât believe you can chalk it up to meta, when Mercy has been here through every single one after her rework. She works everywhere. Even in metas where speed isnât a requirement, she works.
Also, Moira has never been that great of a healer. Similar to old Mercy, she is niche. Even before her barrier nerf, she wasnât a #1 healer.
And Iâd still have to disagree with the healer output and Ana, even when the meta suits numerous tanks to power boost, and are easy to hit for heals, she barely even scrapes the surface.
Ana used to have utility over Mercy, and she doesnât anymore, and thatâs where I feel Mercy got too good.
Genji no longer has a sword, he just uses super good shurikens in ult.
Unpinned? Nice. .-. Let me say, the Mercy Garbage Dump is a HUGE reason why we need Forum Pages back.
Itâs so annoying that I only have so many likes to give. T__T So many good posts recently.
Itâs still pinned for me?
Are we talking personal pin or a pin on the General chat page?
Itâs unpinned from General chat.
Sees this megathread (Sombra Voice) I need a drink.
Unpinned again? Maybe itâs time to stop with controversial reworks?