Let’s see this point one by one:
Lucio: He has a team saving ult and can achieve insane plays with his mobility and boops for example. He is a master of environment kills. He can make great plays.
Zenyatta: He has insane damage and the most powerful team saving ult atm by far. He can make great plays.
Moira: She can melt her enemies while healing her team. She can make great plays.
Ana: Her case is tricky, but at least she still can deny ults with her grenade or her sleeping dart. That’s worth it of being called a great play.
Brigitte: I don’t know enough of this girls, but I know that she has a ranged stun, so she can interrupt ults, and that’s exactly Ana’s case. I’m sure she has more capabilities, that’s only one of her abilities.
Mercy: She can press her ez mode Q and do what she could do just gitting good at her basics, pretending to be like a pro. Usually, She can’t make great plays, and usually, if you earn potg you will feel arkward because someone really deserved it more than you.
Finally, Genji is one of the most powerful dpss in the game and can make great plays both with his Q and deflect. If you want to talk about Mercy and Genji as equals, then you should make his deflect to have a 2 sec cast time being stationary and his ult to just allow him to do aoe basics from a Widow’s range more or less, no more dashes.
You will laugh, but they merged posts to the megathread from people complaining about rez being too op yet. Guess they were trols, but they were there.
Basically, a good Mercy never needs valkirie because she can do the same thing being engaging and priorizating her targets. Valkirie allows even the worst player to just hit Q, hide behind a wall and heal the entire team holding M1. That’s why valkirie is so bad. It’s an ez mode pro simulator, and this game doesn’t need such a thing.
And why that must be the case for everybody? In fact, just tell us why we shouldn’t be complaining due to having a bad designed ultimate that allows you to make up your own skills while disengaging or even hiding.
Just for you to make a comparison. Look at the burst dpss in this game (Widow, Hanzo, Junkrat,…) and look at the sustained ones (Reaper, Soldier,…). Tell me what you notice.
Not the same case? Oh, why? Because they are dpss? Not a good excuse.
Nope. Immobility during rez doesn’t fit with Mercy’s main concept as a mobile support in any form. Also, valkirie doesn’t fit at all with “Heroes never die!” voice line because if you heal, they will surely die, and if you boost, you are not saving them. That isn’t what that voice line is supposed to say.
She needs a new rework in the right direction this time. She needs to recover her skill ceiling, her play making capability, her identity and her fun, those four at the same time while being balanced.
Okay, now try to put in huge input. It seems you can’t.
I really prefer the option B. Just kill the impostor and bring back her real ultimate. You can change it if you want, we don’t need a straight revert. In fact, the only two things Mercy needs to change are her E and Q.
“Heroes never die!” is more Mercy’s identity than valkirie will eventually be.
I think the ranking is more or less like this:
1- “Heroes never die!”
2- “It’s high noon!”
3- “Ryu ga waga teki wo kurau!”
That being said, having an ultimate that simply can’t fit with its own voice line is a serious design issue, and it should be fixed properly. Obviously, QoL changes can’t make the difference here, what Mercy needs is a rework.
Yes, that’s why I think they tried a step in the right direction. However, with valkirie it simply doesn’t fit. It fits the same as replacing “Die, die, die!” by “Funnel cakes, one dollar!”. If they wanted to make the right thing, they should have changed her ult too in order to fit with such voice line.
I would like to agree with you, but considering that 60 hp/s are nothing for an ultimate, she isn’t really saving them, she is only pretending to seem that she is bothering to try it.
As a flex Mercy main, I hated the entire Mercy meta and I don’t want it back. However, I want her back to where she was before this nightmare of a rework. If they want to add counterplay to her more than just playing smart, okay, I can live with that.
Mercy was not always op. She is not fine now. She is bad design now. That matters even more than simple and easy balance (but it’s ok if they work on other heroes while they decide how to rez Mercy). She needs a rework.
Sorry, but you are not talking by anyone but you and maybe a few more. I have seen even Genji mains calling for mass rez to be brought back, and there were a lot of non Mercy mains in the old megathread wanting her even reverted over what we have now.
100% FALSE. You can ask any pro Mercy about this. EeveeA and Vale (just two examples) said that current Mercy has no skill ceiling at all. Now she is only “Where can I hide?” or “Is my team there to babysit me?”. Before all this crap, she had one of the highest (if not the highest) levels of decision making in the entire game. Of course, if the only way to use mass rez that you knew was the hide and rez, then yes, she had almost none, but that was your lack of information.
1- How may I use it? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5?
2- The dead ones are relevant enough for my team to rez them? May I just rez that Rein who died? May I rez the Lucio and the Soldier? Or can I wait for the next fight?
3- Has the enemy ults there? There will be another emergency soon?
4- Will I be able to charge my ult again before the next emergency?
5- How are my dead teammates positioned? Are they organized or just splitted? Is it really worth it to rez them if they are splitted?
6- My team is dying and I’m alive still. Can I wait a bit more or it’s my rez really needed now? Will I die if I wait more? Will my teammates respawn?
All this vs:
1- Where can I hide? Can my team babysit me?
And valk’s:
1- Where can I hide? M1 or M2?
No. If you had it, that was one of the few ultimates that weren’t used as soon as you had it, unlike a lot of dppish ults. As soon as you had it, the mental game of “Is it really needed now?” started each time you saw the white sull icon. With current rez is as simple as no cooldown? Hide and rez.
Well, I guess they realised that such a huge thread was starting to be ridiculous even at first sight. This is their solution, it seems…
No one said nothing about that. They said “no plans to revert Mercy”. Okay. Now compare these two:
Bring back new iteration of mass rez + keep bunny hop + new E ability
Reverted defense matrix + micro missiles + firing while flying
None of these are reverts. No one has really called Dva’s rework a revert.
Regardless, EeveeA made a post with some suggestions about that. I’ll tell you just the first two points: removing chained beams and boosting her main beam during valk.
If something being unfun were enough to change it, then Genji and Tracer should be rebuilt because you can’t imagine how horrible is to play against someone who can even reflect your own ultimates with a normal ability on cd and how hard can be a good Tracer to kill even by a Winston. In fact, every mass kill ultimate should be reworked because none of them are fun to play against. And let’s no talk about being freezed by a Mei.
Finally, mass rez was changed after two years and two buffs, after replacing the original Mercy’s ult during game’s development, which was (here is the surprise) valkirie, which failed so badly that they had to bring her something better and healthier: mass rez.
I thought this was the 9th Mercy’s megathread.
Tired of this but I’ll repeat it:
New iteration of mass rez + new E ability (not rez) + keep bunny hop =/= revert
Reverted defense matrix + micro missiles + firing while flying =/= Dva reverted
TLDR: Yes, I’m once again actively reading the feedback. Sadly, I’m not the one who should do it.