Everyone hates Paris, but am I the only one

:thinking: Literally mirror maps, and a max of 3 rounds, and you have different ways of approaching. you’re not stuck going through “that one choke” on any koth map.

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I love the mode, but yeah a lot of the maps are wonky. I particularly hate the prominence of environmental kills on those maps. If I wanted to play a platform game I’d be playing one.

I don’t like Busan or Nepal.

I like Lijiang and Ilios, but the rest of the KOTH maps are terrible (Nepal is in the middle of terrible and good). I also hate 2CP, Hanamura is the only good one there. Payload and hybrid maps are the best. Push seems to be a payload-esque mode as well, so I’ll probably like that.

No, I hate them too. Most of them feel like walking into a meat grinder over and over if you’re not a dps.

I love most control (KOTH) maps, but I actually like Paris.

The two maps I dislike the most are Lunar Colony and Busan. I dislike Anubis as well, but it’s slowly grown on me over the years.

Not everyone hates Paris. In QP, I actually find it quite fun.

I hate Busan with a burning passion.

It’s hell as a support. Not great for anyone under 400 HP really.

No, not “Everyone Hates Paris”, I for one don’t mind it.

Every time I’m in a match and that map comes up.

Me: “Team, do NOT go over boop bridge. The point doesn’t even unlock immediately and you WILL get killed stupidly.”

Team:
-doors open, half run to the boop bridge, half run to the covered path, fully enacting the worst of both possible options.
-Two people get knocked off Boop Bridge from a Pharah Rocket and Wrecking ball.
-The half of the team that didn’t do that now hunkers down in the house to await a regrouping
-The first two players respawn, link up with dude #3 from the first failed attempt to go over Boop Bridge, go back to Boop Bridge, try make a heroic dash and get booped off by Lucio.

I already hate boop-centric maps because the game is dumb and annoying when it devolves into bumper cars. But I especially loathe that map and the dumb things I have to witness on a daily basis.

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Usually I just go center because I am playing Ball or Doom

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I used to be a hanzo one trick and koth typically aren’t the best maps for him so by proxy I didn’t like them. I picked up supporting when I saw them, and here recently I have been picking up sombra because of role queue.

I still love payload maps and controversially I like 2cp above koth.

Yes, I hate these 2 maps. Especially Busan.

Love the KOTH gamemode but Busan sucks
Oasis is okay but would rather play other KOTH maps

KOTH really needs to have the time needed to win extended, so it was designed for BO5 and they changed it to BO3 but didnt change the time needed to win point

My issue with Paris and Horizon is how easy it is to be rolled if someone makes a mistake

Doesn’t give any slack and is always a sweaty match even in QP

I’m of the belief that KOTH is inherently a bad mode.

BUT for solo queue/ladder, KOTH is amazing. You can easily carry or stall for years, and get really idiotic wins. 2CP, the mode that takes the most coordination, therefore gets the most hate. KOTH gets love because it can easily devolve into a deathmatch style game, especially on maps like Ilios Well or Nepal Sanctum.

Of the KotH maps, I find Illios the least. Yeah fine, the well map is an icon, but ruins and lighthouse I find a lot less enjoyable. Ruin, once you manage to get it, is quite hard to defend. Lighthouse, however, once you have dug in there, you stay there and win. So very hard to retake.
Overall, I still love KotH maps over the other maps more. But I do not really hate Paris and Horizon. Volskaya I find the least enjoyable map.

i’m a fan of all maps, all maps matter

I hate Ilios myself because it’s a hammond, pharah paradise. Oasis is good imo and busan is meh

My issue with KotH maps is that they tend to run 3-4 flavors: map with the death hole right next to the point, map with the point in a building, map with a thing in the middle of the point, and map with the open point.

I just get tired of seeing the same handful of characters on every KotH map because it’s easy to go for cheesy boops or CC kills. Almost every KotH map has at least two points with a death pit somewhere near if not RIGHT next to them. Like every time you get Ilios Lighthouse or Well, you know immediately the enemy is going to run Lucio, Pharah, Hog, Orisa/Ball, CC hell, etc. and you’re going to end up more worried about getting punched off the map while you’re on point than playing the game.

Maps where it’s easy to get gimmicky kills are the biggest buzzkills imo.