Every single time I go Dva, the enemy goes Zarya

That’s how us genji players have always felt… so… gg git gud

in most matches now days, you can tell how the game is going to go by the result of the first skirmish, so, counter picking early behooves the, currently losing, team, to help even the odds.

are you suggesting that the other team isnt supposed to counter pick in order to win? sure, it’s frustrating for you to be countered, but then it’s also frustrating for the other team to be running into a brick wall every fight, so naturally they counter pick.

Play outside of Zarya Range

Bomb when her bubbles are down

Emote on victory screen

could have used the Knight or the Pawn

how much damage is D.va again on long range?

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dva has what, like 5 counters? play genji and find out what counters r :slight_smile:

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I’m suggesting Blizzard tweak Dva to where she’s not hard-countered by another tank. They did it with Doom, so I don’t wanna hear about “but it’s impossible!”

I don’t really get the concept of “try-harding”. Who actually plays the game to lose? I don’t know anyone who queues up for OW with the mindset of losing. I can understand perhaps playing heroes you might not normally play, but you’re still trying to win. You certainly can’t expect a team to let a Dva roll through them unchecked. They could just as easily roll with a Sym and Mei too.

To me this is a Blizzard game design issue. In Paladins you can’t switch heroes once you pick. And they designed hard counter heroes (as you mentioned). Also a 5v5 issue where there is no off tank to get some shields in front of Dva or to take space while Dva dives on heals and flakers and high ground snipers.

You know each piece on the chess board has an assigned value right?
Bishop = 3
Rook = 5

Take a wild guess why

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About 3-5 dps outside ~11 meters
Zarya range is 15 meters.

The Overwatch communtiy in a nutshell :

  • We know leaving matches is disruptive and has now consequences / penalties. We just don’t like it or blindly accept it.

  • We know there are tools to make it easier to counter certain heroes and can use it at any time. We just don’t like or blindly accept it.

  • We know we are responsible for many changes that were damaging to the game as many failed reworks. We simply don’t like (being called out for it) it or blindly accept it.

  • We know science proves the Earth is not flat. We just don’t like it or blindly accept it.

  • We know playing in the snow half-naked might make us catch a cold. We just don’t like it or blindly accept it.

And so on…

Logical advice : if a game in its core is about counter-picking and you don’t like it, simply don’t play it…

I, for instance, don’t like Real-time strategy video games such as Age of Empires or Starcraft… Why on earth would I even play one of those games and then complain on forums about the very core design of the game so they change it to my liking… ?

You guys (not all of you of course) are incredible, and I don’t mean it as a compliment or criticism but as someone who’s genuinely puzzled about the lack of logic behind your very first statement…

Not even a facepalm is required right now but yet a new adjective and emoji to describe how nonsensical this is.

ok, so then they fix every other tank so they are also not hard countered by another tank, then we are back at square one

lol, you said you can just outplay dva, so why cant you outplay zarya? I think counters and swapping is fine and you should do that over trying to outplay a zarya as dva, but if you’re all about outplaying and not countering… then out play the zarya

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Most of us also don’t like or blindly accept the greedy monetization either. But I guess you think we’re all being nonsensical for that too.

Sorry we’re pointing out the flaws of Overwatch you seem to think is oh so perfect and exempt from criticism.

So I should only play games I find utterly perfect and without fault? I play Overwatch because I overall enjoy it. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have issues with it.

So piss off with your brain-dead cop-out.

Well I’m not talking about games I dislike outright. This is a game I like but don’t see as perfect. I don’t know why you can’t comprehend that very concept.

If your entire argument against me is “just don’t complain”, then not only are you being nonsensical, you’re being a mindless fanboy.

I’m all for this too.

Bro, you’re the one who said Dva is unstoppable without hard-counters. So saying “I should just counter Zarya with Dva” is you arguing out of bad faith.

The fact that this terrible analogy has 21 likes shows the embarrassing IQ of this community lol.

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The guy who brought up chess cited an example of a bishop killing a rook. So your point is moot.

My god, the lot of you guys here say the most useless unconstructive nonsense.

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I could care less, im just pointing out that youre wrong again about another game.

Sounds like the enemy tank has a brain.

This isn’t a chess forum. Go stroke your ego somewhere else.

Why not apply science the the other statement as well? I support playing out in the snow half-naked. It is fine.

It took you writing it and then 2 edits to come up with that? Lol
Youre the one that was talking so confidently about chess, genius.