Every McCree player only plays him for flash

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I think mccree shouldve had the ranged lasso stun instead of roadhog and then roadhog has the close range stun right?

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That sounds pretty fun actually. I can also picture fat pig boys sneaking around to land a flash bang :rofl:

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“Every character in the game has some cheese way of claiming a free kill.”

There’s your problem. That is intrinsically bad game design.

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Does being “better” stop you from being roll-flash-fanned? If so, then sure, stick around and duel I suppose.

But why play into a positional disadvantage if you don’t have to? Just to stroke your ego? Sometimes it’s the only play available, but if you have other options, then taking a duel that advantages the other player is risk with little reward.

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listen im sorry i do play mccree but only because i bought the van helsing skin and he’s helping me aim without throwing. i rarely use flashbang but when i do its flash bang fth on a tank for ult charge. im sorry

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Its to send a message.
Competitive deathmatch is literally just roadhog, mcCree.

I did the top500 using nothing but Soldier.

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Some characters cheese are more cheesy than others

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Oh, well, TDM is a little different. More situations where you’re going to die whether you try to fight or not, and dying isn’t so punishing in terms of getting regrouped with your team, since it usually respawns you together.

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She does have a pretty good collection of skins.

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Not team deathmatch, just regular solo deathmatch so you don’t have teammates. Actual mode where you cant blame your teammates.

Everyone running around spamming flashbang and hook to get free kills, while one guy running around wit just assault rifle.

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I mean, I play Brig mostly for shield bash, so I get it who am I to judge?

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So what if McCree is already the best mid range duelist in the game?

You yourself said it in your original post that McCree players

If the McCree players only play him for flash & actively avoids mid range duels, despite being the best at it, then your argument of McCree being the best at it doesn’t matter if what you say about the players actively not doing what he’s best at is true.

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That’s exactly what makes it so cringey…

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I quite like playing McCree/Widow/Solider, so depending on what the enemy/map/allies are running ill pick accordingly. Playing into pharmercy I’ll usually go widow, but if it’s a tight map I’ll go McCree. If they have flankers/ball then I’ll prob go McCree cos of the flash. If it’s a good Tracer I won’t bother cos they’ll never be in range of flash so I’ll go soldier for some extra healing.

Flash is undoubtably the best part of his kit though. It messes with flankers and Ball and interrupts channeled abilities/ults. However, there’s nothing really wrong with that… you pick Bastion for his overwhelming go damage, Mei for the wall, Torb for his hammer, etc :man_shrugging:t2:

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I think they should nerf flash (lower its ridiculous range and radius, and require LoS) and give FtH a cooldown of at least 3 seconds

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Well, yes. Ofc. Noone is a SMG Widow or Sombra who never hacks… or Ana who never uses anti.
Or those melee wrecking balls.

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Yeah, cus hog totally has one of the best primary fires in the GAME to fall back on like mccree. Mccree, who has comparable range to ashes god damn RIFLE, and can easily outduel most characters at range, other than a widow.

Like come on dude. Hogs damage outside of hook isnt good. It’s incredibly low range, it’s inconsistent, it’s slow af.

Stop defending him. He is braindead. He shouldn’t have such a gigantic crutch in his kit. At least make him show a modicum of skill expression in his flash kill combos.

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around 10-11 meters actually, also he can stun multiple ppl with it.

Flashbang IS overpowered and needed the nerf, but they reverted it even when no one was asking for it.

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I play McCree for the fat dinks.

The goal of the game is to win. If someone misplays and allows themselves to be punished then you should take that chance and punish them.

??? You think people shouldn’t take care and get to safety when their protection is on cd? Do you run into enemy teams with no blinks as Tracer? You stay in the backline as Reaper with no wraithform? It’s basic skill to be careful when you are vulnerable and McCree is always vulnerable if he doesn’t have flash.

It tells a lot when OP thinks people should play recklessly without defensives.

Press X to doubt. Playing support?

So they have brains and you think they should just feed? Soldier has the edge against McCree in a mid-range duel. Soldier has 200hp and 204hp heal meaning in the worst case scenario McCree needs to do 404 damage to kill Soldier whereas he only has 225hp and no more. It literally takes helix and 3 bullets to kill McCree and Soldier can fire those 3 bullets on 0.22 seconds. Obviously that’s an unreasonable situation as no one has perfect aim but missing few bullets doesn’t matter much to Soldier. For McCree missing the first shot basicallyt means lost duel because Soldiers bullets cause screenshake and gl getting those shots while he’s bursting you.

But hey if you are so sure why don’t you put your actions where your mouth is. Let’s take a 1v1. I’ll play Soldier and you play McCree and show with your 3800 peak how McCrees should mid-range duel Soldiers.

Heroes aren’t balanced in a vacuum just around their primary fire. Aim duel on non-mirror heroes doesn’t tell “whose the better player”. Btw I’m willing to take the duel you take McCree and I’ll take Soldier.

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