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This thread has gone off topic and I don’t see where I can reasonably set it back. The subject is off from the op. Mods, feel free to lock.
Whether or not you feel it’s a sucess with the changes for heroes, ultimately it sucks to have a hero you like just for them to be changed in favour of other people . And ultimately in this game, this seems highly centered around heroes who aren’t aim dependent.
So I gotta ask that you just stop. There’s no point in making a hero just to change them later because you just won’t defend them.
Don’t make a hero if you can hear potential cries about aim, being the reason you wholesale change a heroes design, kit, playstyle and entire mechanics and role.
Just don’t. Because you just create two sides and one side ALWAYS loses. When you change a hero for people not playing that hero, people who liked that hero previously are deemed wrong. You are with those people mocking others for liking the first iteration of that hero. You are agreeing that the hero wasn’t worth liking.
And that’s not fair. No one should feel bad for liking a thing that you specifically made to be enjoyed.
And I just … You don’t have it. Your game has no room for more ability heroes . The game has changed. But you just gotta accept it. And revel in it.
Whatever you thought the game would be, it’s not. You fostered a competitive place and that’s fine. But it’s one where heroes are changed because you keep launching ideas meant for old overwatch. But that game is dead.
Stop trying to force new heroes into a game that no longer exists.
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you are not a dev and have not to decide what heroes they are making.
if you do not like overwatch, move on there are plenty of other fps to play.
overwatch is so successful because it attracks so many casual players who have not the time to grind heroes 10 hours a day to get mechanical aim skills.
the devs made overwatch ( AS THEY HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING) for everyone … therefore you have so many femals playing this game and so many people play overwatch as their first fps ever because other fps like rainbow six siege or csgo are too hard for them.
the devs were very clear from the beginning that this game was made for people with less aiming skills… if you still bought it and now complaining its your fault and stop blaming the devs.
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… Please don’t reply if you aren’t going to read the post
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yes i will because all you do is complaining.
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They shouldn’t have added certain no aim ability based heroes in the game in the first place. In a shooting game people will complain (rightfully so) about heroes that don’t need to aim (besides Rein and Winston) because they take far less effort and thought than others in the game. That’s not ok.
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Dude… You literally didn’t even bother to read the post otherwise you wouldn’t have posted that. Literally not a thing you said has to do with the post. Take your copy paste response somewhere else
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First off rein and winston been complain about in past
Second, at first short trailers showing gameplay you alredy could see torbiorn and symmetra play style, yet people are suprised there are no aim abilities.
For example have some symmetra from 2014
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Rein and Winston have been under fire too. I’m not here for it. If overwatch didn’t start with them, they would equally be underfire. I’m not here for it
The amount of people who complain about Moira and Brig>>>>>>> the amount that complain about Rein and Winston. I barely see complaints about the 2 cause most realize that they take a solid amount of game sense and have some mechanics (primal juggling and shield management)
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It die out but in past rein and winston was called “no aim no brain” heroes, especialy winston by genji players “oh no it counter me, and its tank, what can i do when it dont aim!”, it was more popular on old forum tho 
Rein had his rise of complains during goats, because meta, some even said he have to much dmg…
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Brig has been meta for her whole span basically and still gets complaints.
Moira… That’s a definite lie. You can literally type in and see that rein far exceeds her in the topics.
Moira is meta? Cry. Any time prior?
Not a single peep.
Rein on the other hand has been meta. Winston has. Both have been the subject of hard complaints especially about how “easy” they are.
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Yea the Rein thing was people just trying to kill goats lmao. I think people were just trying to find anyway possible to do it
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Welp, straigh rein nerf would not kill it fully, it would just evolve into winston goats, what happend sometimes anyway.
I’m saying that people complain about Moira and Brig way more than those 2…
Moira, I’m going to be pressed to ever agree. She’s meta? Complaints. Except … this is the first time that has happened. And complaints go everywhere. You literally are saying brig is with it and not rein, despite their mechanics being the literal exact same.
I don’t really care what you think. The fact that you have an issue at all , just proves my point.
No more ability based heroes. EVER. They should draw a line in the sand and every hero from here out should have to aim for everything imo.
The sad thing in that is, less people would complain, but i would have less interest into game itself 
good thing there are rumors about overwatch 2, gona have reason to leave game fully XD
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Less current people would. Imo, the casual player already left. It’s not inherently bad. Just bad for us who liked it.
I don’t mind leaving. But I do mind feeling like I was brought in, just to be kicked out
Welp i was thinking about plaing little more, and im casual player, but im worried after leaks from blizzcon is it worth going back or should i play more paladins.
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Brigs qol change is what I think tipped me over the edge. Like … I’m sorry… She was easy to play but now her current players can’t…count to three? Are you serious? You need a list of armor packs because three is just too hard?
But I realized… When you don’t have resource management for a focus… it is. It’s hard for widow and mccree and soldier etc to keep track. It’s not intuitive and to rely on abilities.
Brig isn’t made for tanks or support players…she’s made for DPS players on brig.
And this won’t stop. They’ve been making such changed since mercy’s rework. And it will continue. And I don’t mind the change. But they shouldn’t act like the game hasn’t changed.
If you liked symm 1.0, brig, mercy 1.0, Lucio etc… The game has left you behind. It happens. But they need to stop releasing heroes like that entirely. Don’t tease with them and then change them later. Just, stop launching such heroes at all.
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Yea, even if rein feel to play worse, he at least didnt change that much himself so far. Tho there were rummors about his rework but i think it die out quickly. XD
