Echo is the proof that damage creep exist

This hero is just beyond ridiculous Blizzard im sorry.

It wasnt that long ago when the devs straight up denied that there is any kind of powercreep in the game…and now we get this…thing? Seriously?

A hero that can transform into any other hero and spam their most powerful abilities multiple times within 10 seconds, basicly without the risk of dying.

One would think thats enough to go back to the drawing board and find something else as a kit, but no. This abomination also has an ability, that obliterates everything and everyone who dares go below 50% HP, which happens quite a lot btw because there is already a huge damage problem in the game.

I legit cannot believe that you guys are serious about this, i mean holy hell. Every single match will become “Echo and its 5 minion” on every level of gameplay from OWL to bronze and you guys cannot see that? Characters were gutted, reworked and left to rot for months for being way less opressive and unfun than this.

Not to mention the curse, that from this point onward, you cannot just make a new hero and design its ultimate to be fun and impactful…you also have to consider how it will look like when this abomination spams it like its a voiceline.

The only way this ultimate can work, the only way blizzard, if the echo version of the ultimate is significantly weaker than the original.

With heroes like this you guys just keep making things worse regarding the que times for DPS.

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So what you’re saying is…
Nerf Fusion Rifles.

With this, OW being a social class experiment, 200% confirmed.
Change my mind.
lol

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Was Sigma proof that tank creep exists? Was Bap proof heal creep exists? Sometimes a hero is just overtuned and that is all it is. The strongest DPS now would NOT be meta when the game launched because they would be far too weak. The strongest tanks and supports absolutely would. Damage creep is a lie. The only thing that happened is that more damage were brought up to the playable level, the playable level though for DPS went down.

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“Without risk of dying” largest dps hitbox second to doom, and even then it’s comparable, and she only has 200 health. Just git gud and click her head. Her combos get shutdown by Immortality, her primary fire is garbage, y’all just mad another dive hero is in the game. She’s honestly fine except for maybe some ult balancing. Other heroes can either evade her damage with abilities with iframes, dodge them with movement cooldowns, or just shoot her massive hitbox before she can do anything. It’ll take getting used to, sure, but there are a lot of answers to what she does.

I will write that in every Echo post! We should (the community) NOT let them release her as DPS! We have MORE THAN enough DPSers! Also, the people will keep picking Genji/Widow/Hanzo/Mccree no matter how many DPS heroes they are going to add. We can wait to rework her. Her “Ultimate: Duplicate” can be easily turned to a support one, her ability “Flight” it’s ready for a support hero. They only need to rework her other abilities. It is really dumb to release her as DPS and as a community, we can do it with our feedback! It’s hard and almost impossible but we should try it! They knew how to ban 2 out of 7 Support heroes the last time but they can’t understand that we need more support heroes for a balanced game? We showed them back then with the Mccree +50 hp buff that it was a reallyyyyyyyyy bad idea we can do it now! it’s almost impossible! but we need to try! As I read on her bio, making her a support does not change her lore! Blizzard will hear us if we keep posting and sharing negative feedback!

So… nerf hunters?

It already is a support ultimate.

shhhhhh I am trying to be kind here! :stuck_out_tongue: we have over sensitive people here you can everything else but objective.

Jeff has already said in a stream that they’re aware the ultimate is a potentially a problem and they’ll be looking at it before she launches (for whatever that’s worth, we’ll see.)

As for the beam, I need the real damage numbers on it before I make a call, and I’d like to see it in a competitive setting rather than in quickplay with people who are just learning how to play around the character before I judge it.

isnt the beam 50dps above 50% hp and 200dps below 50%

She will be fat flying symmetra!

Echo is fine, ults should be powerful and hitscans can shut her down.

Sombra’s EMP for example is still very good, yet Sombra herself is not.

Na lets nerf Titans.

Is it 200? I thought it just doubled to 100. I don’t know. I think it will probably be a bit overtuned, but again, people don’t know how to play around Echo yet, so everything seems overpowered right now. I want to give it a little while before we look at her base kit. The only thing that seems obviously too strong right now is the multi-ult ultimate lol

Yeah Echo is proof positive of power creep - imagine how powercrept all the new OW2 heroes will be.