I mean you haven’t given any reason at all why she should be invulnerable. And yer only point supports mine.
Claims counter argument supports original idea. GG. Nothing left to see here folks.
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A good change to “fix” the invulnerability given is to have D.va be killed when the Mech is destroyed. “Captain going down with his ship” style.
Or. Have D.va not being able to ult once the Mech is destroyed.
Or, as a continuation of the first option. Have D.va only de-mech once she ults.
It wouldn’t make sense to be able to kill her when she’s technically behind cover. Shooting her through her mech would be just as weird as shooting her behind another character since technically they are two characters.
You are stretching. If you are going to complain about her, at least pick something legitimate to complain about.
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Tracer does significantly more damage than baby D.Va. Stop trolling.
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These are good options. As well as smoothing out the animation as I said above (for instance she is out of mech a lot faster when ulting it seems). Sadly a bunch of these people just want to cry about it w/o offering anything of substance.
Uh I’ve been hit by multiple Reins when ejecting as well as gotten stuck by many Tracers upon ejecting. I have no idea what invulnerability you speak of.
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You if have a problem killing baby D Va as she flies out of her meka then baby D Va is NOT the problem.
She can literally melt in 1 second coming out of that thing.
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The fact that mini DVA even exists is a bit of a mystery. Tankiest hero in the game with a grand total of 400 hp + 200 armor +150 hp = 750 hp + X hp negated from armor. Even without mini DVA she’s still the tankiest. Maybe let her only use mini DVA during self destruct.
Sounds like someone got owned by Hana Song in the flesh and decided her having a bit of invulnerability as she popped out of the mech was the root of the huge imbalance problem.
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I’ve had Widow’s shoot me midair as soon as I ejected. It’s even an issue to some that D.Va can die earlier than her mech, her death showing before the mech in the killfeed.
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But why is there a delay between her mech dying and her actually leaving the mech? Why doesn’t she pop out immediately? That’s just more stalling.
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The invulnerability is 0.5 seconds.
After that, there is a 1 second window where D.Va can be killed, and the player has no control (can’t move, can’t fire). Then she’s out of mech.
You can actually kill D.Va before her model has exited the mech.
If you play Pharah, Junkrat or Reinhardt, it’s very easy to do.
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Straw man. None of this addresses why she should take damage
Only a bad player can’t kill baby d.va with such an obvious telegraphed exit vector.
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This is not true. The most raw health, sure. But as someone who plays other tanks, she takes damage much faster. And if you look at eHP, Roadhog can actually take more damage. I’d put her at the 4th tankiest hero. Only Zarya and Winston die easier.
That makes sense.
Not.
Probably Animation. I’d wouldn’t mind popping out immediately even if it causes death only if we can control our actions as well. This invulnerability window goes both ways, it’s a >1second delay, wherein you can’t hurt baby d.va but at the same time that player’s screen goes dark in transition into going into baby d.va. So really in that >1 second delay, you can’t kill/hurt d.va but she can’t do anything either.
This probably the same line of thought with Tracer’s recall. She doesn’t immediately appear where she is but rather has a small invincible frame span thing as the player ‘transitions’ back to their prior location. It helps ‘reorient’.
Okay, so today what we’re whining about is how when Dva is in the meka, and she can’t do anything at all because the animation is playing, that one can’t shoot her while she ejects… even though it’s fairly easy to kill her once she flies out of the cockpit.
Got it.
How about… yes.
But only if we all agree that this fixes her once and for all, and these obnoxious nerf Dva topics that are spammed onto the forums all day long, every day, from the same 3 people, will finally stop.
If not, then I think instead of whining about every single component in her kit, you guys should focus on the REAL issues that would fix her.
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I agree. The reason I am giving different options/paths for changes to her is to make her more fair to play against. And the suggestions themselves are always open for discussion.
Also, you are right on that. B-D.va seems to have faster animations than normal.
Don’t be surprised though about the forum people crying/whining. Most of them more or less spend time on the forum rather than the game itself. Which is something I’ve taken a notice of lately.