Or at least her last round of nerfs reverted. She’s the most hard countered tank in the rock paper scissors game that is tank right now. She’s just no very powerful anymore.
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She doesn’t need sheer buffs - rather the game needs to stop gravitating towards hard-counter match-ups. So I’m a big believer that D.Va is a showcase of “hero power isn’t just its own power but also the power of its counters” principle and the solution lies in toning down the counters a notch. And it doesn’t even have to be nerf to those heroes - just the specifics of their interaction with D.Va.
Say all beams are only effective as their base, non-charged versions when D.Va uses DM and against D.Va only. That’s be a good start - it’d still make beams counter DM till some extent but in no way it’d be melting the mech in a second.
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Sorry, but Dva is to weak. Like OP said, she gets countered to much. Do you really want to buff Dva or nerf:
- Sym
- Zarya
- Mei
- Orisa
- Rein
- Ram
- Roadhog
- Ball
- DF
- Echo
- 76
- Zen
- Bap
- Brig
- Cassy
- and so on
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Out of the list above only beam heroes can be considered “D.Va’s specific issue”. The rest of them are the similar level of challenge to her as they are to pretty much any other tank. So let’s not get hot-headed. One thing at a time. I’d try to make it that beams no longer hard-counter her and see where it goes.
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Speaking as a D’Va main…nah. Just played a game where the Mercy was attached to a D’Va the entire match. It was beyond impossible to kill her. Fix the issue of Mercy having unlimited time connected to a character first, then we’ll talk about any changes.
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No she absolutely does not. No tank needs a buff besides Roadhog. Even DF is strong atm.
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Out of this list there are only 4 who actually make sense.
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Let’s not act like this is a Mercy-specific issue when an Ana or Bap can pocket D.Va ten times better than Mercy every could. It’s an issue with healers making all tanks feel immortal in some cases.
So your entire team hasn’t come up with the strat “distract the D.Va and make her look at you and let your Ana throw an anti at her”? Okay…
Give her a Passive.
While in Tokki, D.Va takes 30% reduced damage from Critical Hits.
She should be able to fire fusion cannons while DM is active now. I understood the restriction when there were two tanks in a team but that’s over now. Strengthen her dive capabilities.
Maybe allow her to DM a bit longer and Boost more frequently. Her mech should be able to fly freely.
Am I the only one that thinks eating all projectiles is an extremely powerful ability, and needs a proportionately large downside?
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How does she get countered by these?
Is that why even 4s 15m DM had a lower damage blocked than Winston’s dinky 650hp bubble (an ability that was deemed weak enough to need buffs for OW2)?
Oh right, speaking of Winston outperforming D.Va, remind me which one is dominating higher-up (and has done so any time the meta is so much as dive adjacent?)
It’s almost as if real matches don’t consist of 5 Pharahs forming an orderly firing line and ulting in perfect unison or whatever today’s imaginary powerup is.
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Dva is unkillable without a beam hero… You pick a beam hero and she dies. That’s the balance.
What makes her ‘‘unplayable’’ is this 5v5.
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Winston’s bubble can’t eat the ultimates of 12 heroes with the press of one button. Yes some like Reaper and Ashe ults are only eaten partially, but the value for the effort is insane.
There needs to be a downside, it can’t be that nothing can shoot through matrix.
OTP issues tho, I bet you play dva on koth maps vs zarya a lot and that what you get for not flexing. Dva is the best dive/peeling tank in the game rn, but you shouldn’t play her all the time. Maps with highgrounds is where she thrives, she beats any low ground tank if played right and is a hard counter to monkey, soft counter to ball, doom. She can play around all the other tanks on most maps where these tanks can’t reach highground.
4s mobility 3s defense matrix are busted. Half hp is armor, 2nd life cheese remech, her busted damage all these may require nerfs but not buffs for sure.
No. If you’re getting countered - then swap.
This is the same logic people use when Genji players want a buff. Welp…
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You can only play DVa for 30 seconds before the whole team swaps.
So would you say it’s a DVA problem that she’s too strong?