Dva isn't op, rein is

You don’t… I read your posts. I can see very clearly you don’t understand the role. Just because you have hours with doens’t mean you understand. Your posts prove that.

Insert Ron Burgundy “I don’t believe you” meme

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Ok. Where would you place a tank who understands tanking, I play tanks in 2400-2800

This new evidence is earthshattering.

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Rank isn’t the point. Your rank doesn’t mean you understand the game at all. I’ve seen tank players in masters that don’t understand the role or strength of tanks.

Rein isn’t OP at all. He’s simply the only main tank option for most comps. Winston leads Dive comps, Orisa leads defensive comps. We need more tank options.

That’s really the only way to limit Rein without making him a troll pick.

which still means you don’t know how to play the game. or the role of the tanks. since it’s the most important role in the game

We have other tank options but rein leads so far ahead, let’s slim it down to orisa and rein.

Either orisa is bad and rein is better in most situations or rein is good and is generally more viable by a long way than orisa

… Orisa can put down a new shield pretty fast. And she can shoot which is indispensable when your DPS can’t kill stuff which is most of the time. I supposed I would pick rein more if my team mates didn’t keep demonstrating that it’s better I play Orisa :stuck_out_tongue:

Hot take: no tanks are OP
but anti-heal shouldn’t be a 100% reduction

99% agree with antiheal

this forum is actual cancer.
this ability has been around since her inception and though her time in trash tier and only now is it a problem.

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My friend it got buffed and the meta changed, people got better with it.

The bubonic plauge wasn’t an issue until millions of people died from it

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Frankly if they take her away her full anti-heal it might as well not even exist.

It makes sense tank mains hate it, thought. They only seem to ever die when they are affected by the nade.

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I feel like if it was a 50% decrease it would be better somewhat

I’m baffled at your argument that Rein is op because of his high pick rate but Dva is not, because she can do her job. (?)
Dva is an incredibly flexible hero that fits in every composition.
Mainly due to her DM, mobility and good damage output.
Doesn’t matter what comp you run, Dva is nearly always included in it.
Look at OWL WC, 98% pick rate compared to 33% of Rein and 57% of Winston.
Is she op currently? No I don’t think she is,but she is certaintly very strong.

Now to Rein. To avoid making this post massive, here is what I wrote:

(TL;DR version)
Basically there are not enough options to choose from if you want a main tank.
Winston is for dive and you got just Rein and Orisa if you want a barrier for a less mobile army. Orisa has a more defensive nature, so if you are attacking you are more likely to pick a Rein. This is why Reinhardt is picked more.

Reinhardt is a melee hero with an abundance of weaknesses and requires you to pick certain heroes in your team to enable him.
Without a lucio for speed and a zarya to support him, Reinhardt is so much less effective that you may as well pick Winston or Orisa.
Add to that Brigitte and you allow him to excel in a brawl fight.

His charge ability is high risk,high reward, very telegraphed and has an auditory warning that he is starting to charge.
His ultimate also has a long telegraphed animation and auditory warning that it’s going to happen giving enough time to everyone to either cc him,cancel it, block it or avoid it.
He is the only other hero alongside lucio that is very vurnerable during casting of his ultimate.

All of his abilities feel fair, balanced and rewarding to use.
The hero is not oppressive, he is strong at close range, but very vulnerable to cc and easy to overcome/avoid with mobility.

There is a reason Dive was king for so long. It just happens that now with Brigitte, there are more Rein-enabled compositions.

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I don’t think Rein is overpowered. He’s just the only really viable main tank right now.

  1. Brig has ruined dive, so Winston and Hammond are in bad shape (but will likely be fixed by her nerf).
  2. Roadhog was badly underpowered for a long time. This also ruined Orisa, her tanking buddy. But hey, they just buffed him.
  3. Zarya has been favorable lately because DPS who can do good grav combos have been favored (Hanzo and later Doomfist). Zarya pairs with Reinhardt, so a situation that favors Zarya will make him be played more.

Brig’s nerf and Roadhog’s buff will hopefully make the tanking situation a lot more equitable.

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It might as well not even exist, then. It clearly is not overpowered itself since Ana was garbage with it; it just seems so because of the immense damage and sustain creep. When people are not pumped full of immense burst healing every second they die instantly, so anti-nade really is extremely powerful.

Like I said it got buffed and the meta changed.

Tracer might not be op now but if the brig changes happen she will be

It didn’t get buffed.

I’m pretty sure it did… Wasn’t there an aoe change?