dva self destruct most of time is used as free mech rather than offensively. the only other ult that does that gives u a free full health is winstons… ohh wait a second… whos ult has less kills than dva? lul
So it’s not OP because it apparently gets triple kills every single time it’s tossed, but it’s OP because it gives her 600hp to feed to enemy team instead of getting any crucial kills?
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Have fun time talking yourself into a corner.
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torb and sym are OP, where they are viable “see pickrate” but i already said that right?. funny you should mention 2 off tank comp as dva/hog is the only comp of that sort ive seen in OWL. yes you can ult when shes in mech but its always a risk
OP has a point. She shouldn’t have that kind of damage potential. She is a tank for the sake of the flying spaghetti monster, not a high HP DPS with double life.
Her DM 2.0 was the most ballanced and best version of her.
Can you reword this? I can’t tell what you mean.
A lot of things in the game are risks. Ulting as D.Va in general is a huge risk because you have 150 HP until you get back into mech ~4 seconds later (including call mech cast time). Ulting as Genji is a huge risk because you have to jump into the enemy team. There are still calculated risks in this game.
Interesting, but it doesn’t change the fact that D.Va/Hog is incredibly difficult to pull off in the actual game. Did they win with D.Va/Hog? What game was this? I’ve heard Hog/Zarya is the most viable off-tank combo.
I don’t blame people for thinking that she is overtuned because in many ways she is…
600 health with 200 of that being armor already gives her the best health pool in the entire game.
She is also the most mobile tank in the game, 5 second CD on her boosters that allow her to fly for 2 seconds. Pretty insane considering that Winston’s leap is on a 6 second CD which doesn’t offer nearly as much control over your mobility that D’va’s boosters do.
Her dps on her cannons excluding headshot is around 150 dps if all pellets hit. Realistic damage from these cannons is a lot lower than this but would still put her ahead of Winston for example on a single target.
Then factor in her 2 abilities, Micro-missiles offer her great burst damage and combo’s very well with her booster. This allows her to delete any <200 health heroes very quickly.
Finally DM is still an insane ability, yes it doesn’t offer the same survivability that an ability such as Winston’s bubble offers but it offers insane value in its ability to shutdown enemy ults and can protect your allies at crucial moments.
no one said it gets a triple kill every time its tossed . every other game. say 6 ults a game. so every 12 times its tossed. Are you a hypochondriac IRL?
Here’s the thing now, she’s now 2/3rd HP 1/3rd Armor, back in the trip tank days she was 2/3rd Armor 1/3rd HP. When changed it, they gave the “2.0” DM to compensate for the loss of survivability. Then they nerfed her DM because “It’s Unfun to play against” and gave her a 1/2’ed DM, with a longer Recharge, no regained of any of the previous Armor. Their only compensation was firing on the fly, and Micro Missiles.
A hypochondriac is someone who is incredibly afraid of becoming sick… What does this have to do with it, btw?
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Can’t even take this guy seriously anymore omg. 
Symmetra and torb are OP and I supposedly have some weird condition I’ve never even heard of.
What you meant probably is illiterate.
outlaws vs valiant on hollywood last week.
torb and sym have high WR’s but incredibly low PR’s. As i already said PR relates to viability. So i should say PRxWR=OP
So if someone in OWL picked Symm, and they still managed a win, and they never picked her again, that would make Symm OP? Having a 100% win rate in OWL?
a hypocondriac extremely exaggerates symptoms. it was refference to his exageration in 1 dva ults vs 12 dva ults. dw its a england thing
Who won tho? How long was D.Va/Hog used? Were they successful with it? I’m a little curious. As it stands, it’s generally unviable in regular play.
This must be that new math
It does partially, but not completely. There are lots of variables to determine pickrate.
Uh. k den.
are you dumb we are discussing stats with huge sample sizes, not 1 game
Hypochondriac -
noun: hypochondriac; plural noun: hypochondriacs
1.
a person who is abnormally anxious about their health.
synonyms: valetudinarian, neurotic
And no, I’m not dumb, but I’m trying to understand your logic… if you can use 1 Hypothetical situation “Lobbing D.Va’s Mech in a corner netting you a triple kill every other match” when in reality it could never be pulled in that many situations, I used a single situation where I gave Symm a 100% Win rate to justify her “OP” using your math.
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they lost but then they lost every map, so really it has no relevance. what is relevant is that they are pro players, with pro coaches.
obviously PR also relates to popularity aswell. but most par viability.
Exactly. The comp was not successful. So it’s a moot point.
D.Va and Mercy both had high pickrates when they were both considered to be underperforming. It’s more nuanced than it, especially for a hero like D.Va.
of course it ca. especially if you have a rein or zarya on the team
But what you said was, and I Quote “you ark her ult into corners u are guaranteed a triple kill every other game.” Where in there did you say "The team used Teamwork to get D.Va a Triple kill using another Tanks’ Ult. You are justifying “OP” and “Needs Nerf” using Examples that “SOLO” she’s OP.