Because sometimes you want to play another role?
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That is the most unrealistic comment I think I’ve ever read on these forums.
Congratulations.
Ontopic though. People like you make me laugh. Purely because you will just outright complain about something within the game while giving absolutely nothing as a solution.
“Bliz! Sort your queue times out or I’m going to call you out for being bad developers!” Is a terrible statement that literally helps nobody.
You make it sound like blizz can just click their fingers and solve the problem.
Role queue is a nessesary evil. It saved those of us in the support and tank roles from hopelessly tanking / supporting 4-5 dps with no hope of winning.
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I’ve given my solution repeatedly:
SERVER BROWSER. This was even before 2-2-2.
In what world is SERVER BROWSER a solution?
How are you supposed to get a fair comp match against other players if you can pick and choose what server to join.
And if you’re talking about unranked then Hello? Custom game list exists?
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You don’t already. Pub play is not competitive. Astroturfed as it is, OWL is competitive. The little button that says competitive is not.
My queue times for dps are about 5 min for QP and 6-8 for Comp(high gold). It’s not too bad at this rank. I do deathmatch in between and practice my aim and 1v1s.
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They haven’t. They’re constantly thinking of new stuff to do it.
Wait what?
Overwatch is not a Pub. It’s a video game. Pubs are where people go to socialise and have a drink with friends.
No OWL is a business.
My whole life is a lie!
I’m just going to assume you’re trolling at this point telling me the Competitive button is not Competitive…
I haven’t played in over a month.
Games are just not worth the wait.
Edit: Haven’t played, haven’t participated in events, haven’t bought lootboxes.
I did catch some OWL, but not as much as the start of last season and a lot of that definitely has to do with the fact that I’m not playing right now.
Blizzard is lucky because instead of OW I’ve been playing WoW more so they get that sub money, but I’m playing less and less WoW as BFA winds down and I’ll probably cancel my sub at some point for a couple of months so I don’t burn out before shadowlands.
If they were hoping to keep me engaged through OW when I cancel my WoW sub, I may not go back this time. Not if the queues are still as long as they were when I decided it wasn’t worth waiting.
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I do play main tank, if you read instead of looking for arguments, you would know I was queued for DPS in this scenario.
Queue times for tanks and supports are far shorter, there is no way it can be equally bad. You can play 2 (maybe more) games in the time it takes a dps to play one.
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I mean, there’s not exactly a lot Blizz can do to change them.
They can continue to add Supports and Tanks hoping to draw DPS players away, but I know more Supports and Tanks that have moved to DPS or flat left than DPS players that moved to Tank or Support.
Another option is overhauling and rebalancing the game to be something more suited for more DPS heavy comps this artificially cutting queue times by cramming more into a game, ofc they’d need to commit to a 180 on Tank and Support power levels as if we do change to 1/4/1 or something like 2/4/2 as their current levels aren’t sufficient vs the influx of DPS unless Blizz decides to nerf the respawn timer too.
Personally, I don’t much mind the wait time when I do queue DPS. Gives me time to respond to texts, check the bank account ect. Stuff I tend to ignore if left unchecked.
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I’m talking about the feeling it engenders. Its frustrating believe me to wait time and then get a couple of smacktards for DPS players who can’t be bothered to even learn a hit scan to counter Pharah…
When 2-2-2 was just implemented I get 27 min q time at high masters-gm, it happends again, and again and again. I start to looking the way just to play the game. Bought many accounts, start shamelessly smurfing and find that 1.7-2.4 k elo is less inflicted with q times for dps. Months were passed and my friend from high masters said that q times are poping here, and at the same time I’ve notice low elo q time for dps increased. So I went back to my high elo accounts and mid masters. Q time sometimes poping very fast, sometimes it is 2-6 minutes sometimes it is 10, but still bearable. So, I guess blizzard figured out something about it, probbably dva op buff had its influence, and overall rein+dva meta as most picked tanks in this game’s history. Watching top500 NA streams : they have very fast queues at prime time, like 2-3 times faster thatn EU.
you are fine with other people having long queues but not yourself
thank you for the helpful post lol
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When I am stuck in Tank role and dps can’t deal with Pharah I can usually bring it under control with DVa.
On Support, Baptiste is good enough to kill her alone, Pharmercy is a bit tougher with just Baptiste, a discord helps.
My point is they just often are just as inept and poor at their play as anyone else. Queue time is simply irrelevant ultimately and doesn’t make DPS complaints about tanks or supports any more relevant than tanks/supports disappointments in DPS players who are frankly playing ineptly.
Matchmaking systems do not work for team sizes above 1 unless it is a score for a pre-formed team and not a pack of randoms thrown together.
Pub play is short for Public play. But you knew that.
It can be both. OWL is also the only format where pre-formed teams play against each other.
Just because you call something a name doesn’t mean it’s true. I can call myself the King of France but it doesn’t mean I’m French royalty. Aside from the longer game format, its still pub(lic) play of randoms vs randoms.
I get what you are saying I just don’t agree.
DPS queue times can be well over 12 minutes, tanks and supports get put in games in under 3.
You can compensate for a dps not doing what he needs to, But if the enemy Rein is in your face swinging his hammer while your Rein is chasing their Lucio around like a bad cartoon villain…there is pretty much nothing a dps or healer can do to alleviate that.
Main tank has a lot more impact in the game, just to be able to play at a competent level is a lot.
I do get the frustration is real 
Nono, you misunderstood
He said He’s fine with long dps queues - cuz he was speaking for himself, you see…