Sometimes it IS DPS, but it isn’t that cut and dry. If I can’t turn a corner without being one shot in order to find an angle to shoot… there’s nothing I can do as a DPS.
I’ve literally had games with no shield tank for 4 minutes, down to the last 30 seconds. Couldn’t even get through the first choke… someone went shield tank, we took the point, and won the game.
Having enough room to find a target before getting blasted helps.
Let me ask you something:
A team of 5 bronze + a T500 Hanzo/Widow/Doomfist versus a team of 5 bronze + a T500 tank
Which one do you think would come out on top?
This is basically the reason why i blame my tanks more often than not.
Depends, I guess.
I don’t understand this whole “tank space, dps kill.” Like doesn’t anyone on the forum work together as a team when playing?
If people haven’t figured out it is the DPS who take space and the tanks that hold it in this meta then just ignore them - they’re probably using some flat footed hitscan character like McCree and flanking any way.
But its true though. Because tanks can do A LOT of damage and if they press W on you … doesnt matter if their DPS are not good, you are dying anyway.
Tanks can DPS
DPS cant tank.
Thats a KEY difference.
You can though. The difference is that Good DPS need really really really BAD DPS AND tanks on the enemy team to carry. The moment 2 of them focus you, you drop dead in 2 sec max. With a tank? You have 500 HP and an absorption, you just need proper positioning and healing and you “push” the enemy out.
Roadhog alone can blast an entire team with almost zero help.
The moment he gets on range, Hanzo is toast. Not road? Pick Hammond, you dive the hanzo 24/7 , ggs.
Whats the hanzo going to do? Get a lucky shot every 2 mins? its still not riping through 600+ HP before the gap can be closed.
Depends which tank they’re picking. If it’s a roadhog, the other team isn’t going to have much fun. Even me, just having played to diamond, would tear through a bronze team with roadhog. I’ve played with friends on other accounts who have been in silver, closer to bronze and it’s just a joke how people can’t do anything if you pick roadhog down there.
The topic being discussed was:
Tanks not being able to do their job when DPS doesn’t do enough damage/secure picks
vs
DPS not being able to do their job if tanks don’t make space or protect them.
So naturally we’re talking about the main tanks here. Roadhog and Hammond are more like DPS. I should have specified this earlier.
Play agains rein as dps, use cc or mobility, he pressing W gona lead him to death if he will not hide every 2 steps to regenerate shield… yea… so much carry potential, from behind the wall.
Yet, if you play ranked, with dps 2 ranks above everyone else, he on his own gona carry whole match, didnt had occasion to see that on tanks, but thats show good dps carry potential too.
And yet most tanks stand around in some corner protecting themself or even worse just run into a 1v4 and charge the enemys ults.
This is not FFA pal, you are not “CCing” anything behind a 2000hp shield. He has healers behind and if you try to play brave and flank, even Bad DPS on his team will blast your face.
Let me remind you that he has just to get to the point, once he is there? Good luck getting him out. There are a GAZILLION matches that are just won by a Rein+Zarya+Lucio pressing W. Try to “press W” with a Soldier, Mcree or Ashe or Junkrat in a choke and see what happens.
Nobody said DPS cant carry, but 80% its on the tanks dude. If your 2 tanks just ROLL OVER the enemy tanks, you literally can sit on the back throwing random shots and win.
(btw you dont even have rank at the moment, if you are going to throw that argument, play ranked at least)
Carry potential:
Tanks - 60%
DPS - 30%
Supports - 10%
Well, no not really.
No this is plat experience, dps moira not healing tanks 
Once im on point im alone left to die usualy. This is presing foward tank experience
Also good luck presing w to win in choke point, when you cant make any step foward without being destroyed 
The tank goes zarya, ensures bubble on sombra, hacks df, wrecked.
Tank goes hog, one shots top500 with cheeky tp of sym.
If you don’t believe in your team, you don’t win.
I bet you a good tank can coordinate his team to victory.
And the good dps will try to coordinate the needed cd’s and carry with mechanics. As the dps doesn’t have any really utility to carry outside of mechanics and coordination.
In the end imho
The team with the better supports win.
Coordination is key.
Watch jayne do scrims with silvers and gm’s
They do better than you expect if coordinated by a good caller
Things like; i try sleeping the gm so we can combo him.
Never heard that in my games (plat) only gm videos
sounds like you’re not aggressively pushing your shield up to take space
and if that’s not working, your supports are busy healing dps and not you because you won’t push up so dps have to try to find their own angles, get caught out, and divert attention away from tanks.
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it’s your fault for not playing aggro enough for your dps so they constantly take unnecessary damage and split healing
also
25k blocked is fairly avg, at best
come back when you block 46k+ and then you can complain
I’m a support main who often plays dps.
If something’s going wrong, it’s almost always the tanks. It sucks to join a match and see a roadhog, wrecking ball, dva or winston, as they are all non-shield tanks, and not running double shield is pretty much an instant loss.
It sucks to be shot at from afar while your roadhog is nowhere near the objective, trying to get some dumb flank and trying to brag about his 60% hook accuracy.
No one can do their job if the tanks don’t do theirs.
tanks stop blaming dps
Not gonna lie… but usually whenever there is a fight in my games it’s between the DPS and Tank.
If the DPS don’t appreciate my flanking hog then they’re of no use to me.
if DPS have a problem with tanks then they can do up all a favour and try to show the tanks how to do it 
we need more tank players.
blaming tanks all the time is frankly unproductive since it risk driving away tank player and upping everyone queue times other then tanks i suppose…