To be fair though, he’s right, I was playing rein the other day in Plat and we ended up losing that round and I got flamed and singled out because I had the lowest SR of the 6 in my team. It bothered my quite a bit because I was sure I did my part, even had silver damage and bronze elims on rein etc etc, went to watch the replay to see what I did wrong and ended up spectating this Mcree who used his left clicks maybe 7 or 8 times that entire round and would basically go rolling around on random flanks using fan of the hammer from a mile away. Honestly though, why play hit-scan at that point even? who put you in plat? I’ve seen Bronze played play better than that, it amuses me how most of the Mcrees I play with don’t know how to aim for the head when they flashbang a tracer or any other squishy for that matter.
This is partially why I hate 2-2-2. Let the blame fall on me. I am the solo tank. I can carry you. Leave the little ones alone. I am the tank. I want to carry you. You’re too weak for the blame. Why would it be subjected to you. 1-4-1 should be forced and let the weak disperse where they may.
Easy fix to that.
Just award less SR for DPS wins at higher skill tiers.
Would thin out the population of DPS at the top, and push some down towards the larger population groups.
Queue times would be fixed.
And the tanks and healers at that skill tier would get higher quality DPS.
(That are more focused on winning, rather than “I’ll play what I please, considering I sat through this really long queue time”)
A thought but most of us the DPS population resides in Plat, high gold and low diamond according to the stats and that’s what most people average at
The stats sites have been broken since 222 beta.
So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
The stats sites may not account for the role queue beta but it does show you individual skill rating based on performance and hero stats, I meant those averages.
Huh, guess I’ll have to check.
Congratulations OP, you found 1 scenario where DPS are at fault.
Should we start listing scenarios where the Support/Tanks are at fault? because we can write a book. We can start with “Chapter 1: Afraid to press W”.
I can’t count the number of matches lost because of scared kittens tanking and “Just RMB LUL” Reins that create 0 pressure and do nothing, not even fire strike.
Doesn’t matter what role you play. Don’t blame your team, there is always something you could have done better, so blame yourself, and focus on your own gameplay and fix your mistakes. Sometimes ofcourse you can’t do enough to offset what your team isn’t doing, but don’t fall into the trap of blaming others for your rank because you are the only constant in your matches.
There are a lot of situations where tanks and supports can get a lot of dmg. Have you seen what a fully charged Zarya can do? Or Sigma’s primary fire? If a Moira has more dmg than your widow, that would make sense. Not all DPS heroes can get gold dmg, like Sombra.
I understand that sometimes I die on point even when my supports are right behind me, because maybe my tanks needed more health. I expect that support who focused on healing the tanks to understand that I’ve died because they prioritized others. And we can have a mutual agreement that that sometimes happens. But to flame each other over that is just childish
Support and tank players have always been toxic, why are we supposed to be noticing it now ?
I have been flamed by tanks " for not healing " even if I end up with over 25k healing.
There is no class I dislike the most these days because of that attitude.
Somehow your bad dps ended up in the same rank as you. So blame the matchmaker not your dps.
no one is saying that it is never the DPS’ fault, and no one is saying that the tanks or healers are at fault either.
what we’re saying is that each role is responsible for keeping eachother up.
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if the tanks can’t create space, the DPS cannot get kills.
if the tanks aren’t getting healed, the tanks can’t create space.
if the DPS aren’t peeling for the supports, the supports can’t heal.
these are not excuses.
Or it’s a Moira who tunnel visions and prioritizes killing that Genji. Or a Mercy who is pocketing a 80% health Rein.
This happens A LOT, though. And trust me, I’m not an arrogant DPS. I say all the time, “Oops, my stupidity didn’t work that time. lol Sorry guys.” etc. when I die.
But tanks being sub-par will 100% make a DPS’s job extremely difficult. It is nearly impossible to secure consistent kills against a well organized team if your own group isn’t working as a unit.
The anti-DPS prejudice on this forum is unreal. XD
The reactions from the large majority of people in here is childish and embarassing
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it is nearly impossible to tank against a well organized team if you’re not getting healed
it is nearly impossible to heal if no one is killing off those flankers
team game.
5head
To be fair, when you Deathblossom and get 5 kills in a 7 second span, but Lucios 2 boops get the card and the PotG, the salt is very real.
Yep, true facts.
In reality, most games are lost due to lack of teamwork and coordination more than anything.
yes because you have a very weak mind.
as reaper you get 99% more potg than a lucio player… one time that the lucio gets the potg you already feel the salt inside you rising, thats telling a lot about you as a person.