to be exact:
in bronze every 7th game,
in silver every 5.32th game,
in gold: Every 4,29th game,
in Plat every 3,30th game,
in Dia every 2,64th game
in Master every 2,19th game
in GM every 1,81th game
Sym is enabled by double shield too, but we gotta nerf her ASAP 
the double standards are getting old
oh i don’t think it will fix DS, Sigma needs nerfs yes, he is a bit too good, but lets see what the new nerfs bring, i think they aren’t enough.
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the general stats didn’t change that much, other then pickrate. I can’t look back at elo specific stats. Sorry, but the general trend shows that he is not just good cause of DS, he just gets better cause of it.
widow still looks good 
I still think it’s not DS shutting them down but Doomfist being so over the top in this meta that he needs to be picked to have a chance. If he is not that needed anymore, people try other combos and will evtl switch off of him and trty breaking the shields, which is totally possible. Orisa could need a little bit of a nerf to her shield in this meta, but this brings the danger of making her without sigma or in a normal tank meta useless or very weak.
These stats are calculate with math 
For a hero to be in every game, he needs 16,66666666666666666666666666666666666667% pickrate. Devide that by the actual pickrate and you get how many games it needs for him to be played once.
Kiiiiind of an important one.
I agree.
Everyone agrees.
No one (worth listening to) is saying otherwise.
Hes popular in DS because hes one of the few DPS heroes who can still work in DS.
I feel like im having to repeat this a lot.
Look up the stats of heroes across ranks prior to DS
Then after.
Youll notice something interesting with most of their win rates
Im aware of the mathz, just that wording tho
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it acutally proves even more that he was too good before and now is even better.
no, he is the reason no one else works.
Well, double shield doesn’t enable him, but he’s one of the only heroes who can just…do something about it.
Which doesn’t make it okay. Double shields needs to be nerfed by ACTUALLY giving Orisa and Sigma a proper nerf. And then they can nerf Doomfist.
Pretty much.
Ironically, Orisa and Sigma are legitimate must-picks - over twice the pickrate of Doomfist, and have higher winrates. Even with Doomfist countering them lol
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How?
Who else can go through shields and pose an actual thread to two tanks and two healers who output an insane amount of healing?
Shield breakers are no longer an option because now there’s two. Flankers don’t work because insane healing + CC tanks makes them weak. Burst heroes can’t break through shields or go through them.
Who else can do something against double shields and insane healing?
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Because he was picked a fraction less than he is now?
We have a very different impression of the stats.
DS is the reason no one else works.
Um what? Lmao how do you figure this?
Doomfist and Sym are the only heroes actually effective against double shield, so therefore… nerfing the only counters to double shield will make other DPS heroes viable? Am I getting this right? Lmao
Ohhhh I understand now. So you actually like barrierwatch and just want to keep playing shield shooting simulator. Got it.
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genji, tracer, pharah, and so on. There are choices that can go around shields. Widow has a high winrate in GM even with sigma and orisa. The two aren’t the real problem. The problem is that first sigma is too good yes, but the second one is that there is no more effective way then doomfist. And that changing makes more dps viable, cuase there is more chocie.
I died to doomfist. A few secs later, omg doom is op. Atleast counter him its very easy
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no cause you didn’t try the rest, cause they are both too effective. They leave no room for other dps to even try. If doom is nerfed, other dps will gain the chance of trying. I think it’s the same again as with goats. It’s not the do and end all meta, Goats was beaten, people just use the way of the least resistence. I think other heroes can easily break DS, but they are not tried.
it’s not. His winrate and pickrate tell a other story. BTW is his biggest counter really garbage right now. Sombra. She should gain momentum in this, but she doesnt, why? Cause doomfist isn’t easy to counter.
O-oh. Oh dear.
You think people haven’t tried the other heroes against double shield? 
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yes they didn’t. You can see that 
at the moment sigma was live, Doomfist gained huge pickrates. They didn’t try other heroes 
That was btw already the case in PTR, You saw a lot of doomfist there already, as doomfist gained momentum already previous to sigma.
Man you got me. I actually thought this post was serious. Pretty decent troll.
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Mccree, hog, orisa, sombra, reaper, mei, lucio boop, brigitte stun/shield bash, ana sleep/antinade, zarya she can save herself and a teammate, moira never gets punched with her fade, widow, torb, bastion, mercy can ga and run away or superjump, if your team has a zen and he’s getting dived near his team he can give them a callout and discord him then his shields won’t matter.
Sombra is a good counter get with it.
people with doomfist icons shouldn’t be allowed to post here Or people who only play doomfist… You always make your hero way weaker then he is, since release. IT’s not the same with everyone else, just sym and torb mains.
You ignored:
Genji and Tracer don’t work in this meta. There is a lot of CC, and the support heroes can easily outheal their damage.
Pharah is kind of laughable considering she’s weak on her own lol.
Because he’s the best counter to Double Shield.
Why spend the effort of trying to flank and having to exert 300% effort to try to outdamage the insane amount of healing from Ana + Moira, when you can just disrupt them head-on by going through their shield? He’s still able to be outhealed but he can disposition Orisa + Sigma. Not to mention Sigma and Orisa can disposition flankers and CC them and ruin their attempts.
It’s such a small part that Doomfist is overtuned. He’s picked as much and as effective as he is because he is the best option to this terrible meta. Which is why I’m 100% on board with minor adjustments only AFTER we do something about double shield to make other heroes a possible option against it.
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