Why wasn’t Danned in OWL then. Sounds like Dannedd is a bit biased considering his name was “DANNEDDOTP”?
He plays for the British hurricane? And hes the best DF player in the game what more authority do you need
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Contenders, not OWL I believe?
yes the london spitfire’s contenders team
and?
hes still a proplayer and hes still the best DF on the ladder
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Which means he’d want to protect his #2 position on the ladder having gotten there with Doomfist
nice mate to think everyone has an “agenda”
clearly no high skill or highly knowledgeable individual has any right to speak on any topic better than they know better than anyone else as they have a biased agenda
so that why we should trust the of some nobody 2500sr player
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So you disregard a pro player and number 1 ranked doomfist but not you the 2500ish sr Doomfist player.
Okay.
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But it’s true though. He got there with Doomfist. Who can blame him for being against the nerfs. Of course he has an agenda in favour of Doomfist
1:35 Mei is garbage. she has you dead to rights with punch on cd. Easy freeze and kill, medpac on her advantaged side if she needs it. Should have unfroze and wrecked you.
1:58 Doom boy just takes it. No cooldowns left.
2:05 free lucio kill is free. This team is staggering pretty hard now.
2:18 Brig is trying to melee a lucio to death before her team is there. I dunno what’s goin on here.
2:32 Mei cucks you hard. /clap
2:38 dat high sensitivity missed punch into a wall. Feels bad.
3:35 pretty much the entire fight people on the enemy team keep choosing targets that aren’t the gigantic hitbox boi trapped on the floor. Only the enemy doomfist seems to be aware of you. Play Scatman version of “The Invisible Man”.
Mei goes for a tracer - top kek. Brig goes for pocketed Symmetra.
4:08 Brig wut r u doin. Brig confirmed for herpin the derps.
4:11 Zarya needed a bit more charge to touch the back wall. Feels bad.
4:16 Lucio gets punished for being a jump spammer. Good job.
4:18 Zarya gets you to 30 HP then forgets you exist. Does not remember the laws of Newtonian physics and is somehow caught surprised by your fall into a punch.
4:34 Good Brig juke is good.
4:37 after pulling off a good juke, Brig apparently gains massive amounts of confidence and stays in the sight lines of four enemies. Her team is behind her, again, as the last time she made this mistake.
4:40 Sombra pays the price of walking into not only the frontline and head of her team, but the spot a brig accosted by 4 people has been standing for 15 seconds.
5:10 Ult used when team has body advantage and you are safe. Possible targets: Lucio and Doomfist - both bad ult choices. Ult gets whiffed. Probably used in the heat of the moment, stuff happens.
5:13 Lucio’s obsession with frogs has come to a head and he now thinks he truly is a frog. He continues to jump incessantly, making it abundantly clear where he will land, rather than AD strafing or using walls. Pays the price.
6:23 Technically this could have been avoided by not whiffing your mobility when leaving the spawn area. Feels bad.
6:35 I think brig is forgetting what shields do here and taking some extra damage.
6:45 This genji used to be 100% dead. Now they always get away at low HP. I accept that that’s the cost of the proper nerf - the uppercut air control. Feels bad tho.
7:00 What is this ult?
7:25 Practice the jump a bit, you can come off with way more momentum than that. You also wanna start from on top of the railing you’re punching.
7:27 >Sees enemy objective. “I have made a terrible mistake”
7:35 “Heal me”. Look at this smart boi - letting healers get ult charge and not taking the med pac. /clap
7:45 Roadhog walks in a direction that deems he knows you exist, then seems to get bored and forget that you exist just before you come down to punch.
8:32 Welcome to Whiffsville and No-Cooldown Town. Feels bad.
9:10 A Moira ult used to be a call for you to end her existence.
This is the perfect example of how new slam is garbage.
Just watch that Moira fly away out of uppercut range in that slam. Garbage move. It’s not even like, a little bit out of range. She’s gone.
9:23 You have been killed by: Situational Awareness.
9:58 Missing hooks on Doomfist barn sized body. Dishonour upon his family.
10:19 You could have killed that Soldier with some better aim, but you’re still pretty dead as dust with your cooldowns like that in enemy territory. There’s no reason to risk yourself in 1:1 trading with Doomfist like this when you can just be someone else.
10:24 Soldier has no concept of what low health is, or what health even is, and just decides that today is as good a day as any to die.
That two rounds, enough for me to tell that this stuff isn’t anywhere near high SR play. Key assessments below.
You should be getting punished more on your dives, but your sub-par opponents are ignoring your existence an awful lot. Quite a few confirmed kill no longer confirmed because slam is “teh poopz”. A few mobility errors on your part over the course of the rounds, but nothing absolutely terrible.
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Why should an ulting support be a free kill? Why shouldn’t a hero with increased movespeed be able to get away? This just supports that people are upset they don’t get free kills with no effort or counterplay anymore.
Ult is the only time Moira can’t fade. Slam used to draw in for an uppercut. This usually results in a 1-bullet-for-sure before the slam. So you get a 50 -> bullet -> 50 combo. With the intent of finishing her off in the air. In the air, she’d still be healing and moving faster. Now, you just get a lil baby slam and a “lol bye, what is a draw-in?”.
Course, option two is to rocket punch her to death - has to hit a wall or she’ll be able to fade because punch knocks her out of ult. Could have lined one of those up given the situation.
he’s not dead. 100% still playable. though he took a hit
your hypocrisy is amazing: point out both chipsa’s or brandito’s statements on DF being an unreliable punch bot
“hurr their top df streamers they dont count becuase their biased”
point out interview with #1 DF player whose on a pro team who says DF need nerfs and uppercut was fine but this is too much and that he will fall out of meta and pro play
“hurr hes biased he has an agenda”
then you have the gall to refer to hydration who said that df will be fine as a punch bot like for some reason he has validity like the other 3 dont so i too will make a baseless claim that he is baised and has an anti doomfist agenda
all the while in this thread acting like you shoddy 2500 sr gameplay where the enemy played awfully as vargoth pointed out, is the grounds to claim that “DF is fine”
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Follow-up.
You’re defending a supports ability to be a godlike spooky boi while you consistently disdain the “low-risk” doomfist ultimate which is currently inorrectly over-nerfed into not only low outer ring damage, but a smaller middle ring instead of a larger one.
Do you at least concede that Doomfist ult, with its incorrectly smaller inner ring, is crappy?
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Yes, that’s my point. Why should an enemy be a free kill simply because they’re incapable of becoming invincible? Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds? “This hero is a free kill because they’re not incapable of dying.” IE “this hero is only ever not a free kill when they’re incapable of dying”.
Doom can’t guarantee a kill with ever button he presses, must be under-powered. /s
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You are saying that when you said it has no counter play. When it really does. And then you are saying that has free kills. That’s basically saying it’s op without saying it is.
So it has counterplay but you just dont want to use the counter play. So drop that argument if you want to be reasonable and healthy in a discussion.
Also you can use lucio ult, not only zen. And its not necesarily less often than doomfist.
And this is way the discussion has no sense. Because you can’t use and argument like that. if you can stop 1 dragon from 200 you throw, then you can’t stop thoose dragons at all. End of the argument, move on.
You are trying to mix everything to win the discussion and im not doing that. You prob are tilted because you are ansering 10 people at the same time. Anyway you are not saying nothing real about doomfist. And let me be clear here. SAME arguments can be used pre or post nerfs:
- He can combo instakill 200hp heros
- He has invulnerability in his ult
- he can RP and instakill you
All of thoose are your arguments to say doomfist was op. Well, he can do all of that now. So, for you, he is still OP. The thing is you are not considering him for real because you are obviously tilted with him and you are not seeing all his weak points. You are just listing the best points of him, most of them truth. But you are not listing the WHOLE list of weak points, now he has WAY more.
Same as you said about hanzo’s dragon been reflected as a valid counterplay doom hasnt. But you are avoiding the fact that you actually deflect 1 of 100 or 200 dragons. So it’s a very weak argument and you are considering it as a strong one.
If you want to talk for real talk about real balance for him, talk about easy counterplays he has in his playstyle instead of insta answer with his strongest plays.
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I think its offensive capabilities are appropriate for the amount of risk inolved, which is to say there is none. If you want it to be more powerful, it needs to have more risk and counterplay.
Being upset doesn’t mean you lose 7% winrate
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Him hitting the ground is the risk lol. You know how easy it is to melt doomfist with that telegraphed big circle?
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