Damn that is a beautiful way to word that. I like that term “legacy change.”
I think this is a big thing too. It’s been so long, so many adjustments to old arguments etc, what revert means for one person might be different from another, mass rez has been such a die hard focal point of the entire discussion.
I’ve NEVER seen an ability or gun or anything in a game to have SUCH an effect on people and their views. It’s REALLY crazy. The way mass rez impacted some people is kind of admirable in a way lol.
Yeah if they want to hammer home that point I’ll let them.
I better see them rebutting people who ask for reverts from here on out, and I’ll be holding them to that. I’d hate for them to be making arguments in bad faith, after all.
I think it was you who asked for actual numbers…
I checked all threads over the course of 12 hours.
Thread Type
Number of Threads
Overall
491
Overall mercy
69
Mercy & Balance
52
Revert Mercy
1
Mercy Troll
1
Miscellaneous Mercy
7
Mercy Spam Complaint
8
14.05% of the threads are related to Mercy.
75.38% of Mercy threads were related to balance, and were not all created by Mercy mains. Not a single one contained the exact same idea/s.
1.45% of Mercy threads asked for reverts.
1.45% of Mercy threads were troll threads.
10.14% of Mercy threads simply mentioned Mercy, not complaining about her state at all.
11.59% of Mercy threads were people complaining about the number of Mercy threads.
I’ll do this again later, probably over the course of 2-3 days instead. But from what I’ve seen, Mercy mains aren’t spamming the forums. You all need to grow up, I know what it looks like when a forum gets spammed. You should have been on the Spore forums a few years ago. There were spam attacks that rendered the forums completely useless, or you actually couldn’t talk about anything because of the sheer amount of spam.
(I don’t know why the table is at the bottom but I can’t fix it lol)
Most of what I’ve seen is arguing of returning mass rez.
“We have no plans.” Well, I think that speaks for itself, followed by the nerfs and lack of reworks to her.
Sure, they never said “we will never.” But it’s pretty clear where they stand. And, well, maybe they’ll rework her in the future. But, that really doesn’t make me want to blame Blizzard for the mercy spam. I blame mercy mains.
“Rework” is COMPLETELY open to all forms of possibilities. Look at Sym, that rework changed that character to something entirely different, GROUND UP, from what Sym was. Sym mains took it like champs. Mercy has her ult changed, AND THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO STOP.
You cite how Blizzard has contradicted themselves and so on and so forth, like you’re expecting everyone to perfectly word their every opinion, to write however many page posts on the matter.
The part of that post that really stands out, is the
part. And AT THAT TIME the whole #RevertMercy movement was going hard and all the revert was entirely centered around the ult. Around bringing mass rez BACK into the game. No one was talking about reworks in the scope of moving away from mass rez AND valk to something entirely different.
So once again, tell me again how they would never “revert” the hero?
and context? Oh… You mean the context that the devs never mentioned because they were completely generic in how they mentioned a revert? Oh yeah that. No do tell me where they EVER said that the “revert never happening” thing SPECIFICALLY meant mass res. I would love to see an official quote somewhere that proves to me that you aren’t just making things up out of thin air with that statement. Jeff saying “Mercy’s res is never being reverted” is a myth. It does not exist.
I don’t stoop down to the level of calling people I disagree with “spammers”, so I will refrain from doing so with you as well. If facts are facts, that is the side I will be on. Simple as that. The fact is that the statement of “revert will never happen” is dead. Because it’s already happened in the past, and I wouldn’t be surprised it it happened in the future.
Hey, as I said, it’s all good. Clearly context is for the weak. The forums asked for a revert and we got it! Praise Papa Jeff! We did it Reddit!
This should mark the end of “Mercy Mains flooding the forums”, as you put it, in the advent of this momentous news. You will help me in spreading the good word…right? Because clearly, this is what they meant, right? This is the revert they wanted. Now they have no reason to complain.
Thank god that episode of OW is over. Now we can move on to other heroes now that Mercy players are finally sated.
“We have no plans to revert Mercy” =/= “We will not be reworking Mercy again”.
Why do you think they phrased it that way in the first place? If they wanted to be clear on they position, they would have used more simplistic phrasing and outright said “Mercy is not getting reverted/reworked”. But the didn’t. They took the long way around to say “We have no plans to”.
I honestly don’t care who you blame, the complaints aren’t going to disappear until Mercy’s issues disappear.