Do people actually want Bastion viable?

That’s the case for pretty much every offensive ultimate.

Having no mobility in shooters = death sentence

I didn’t mean to say that they should rework him now, all I meant was how much would they need to change before realizing this build of bastion doesn’t work? I agree. They tried once, failed and ignored him after that. His kit is just hard to balance as is so I don’t know if buffs alone would work.

All I mean is that by adjusting how his current build works, he could still be trash. Maybe if devs think a rework would end up better they should do that instead of trial and erroring with his current kit.

Not if you can kill the enemy better. That’s how you balance out immobility. Notice how Hanzo is less agile than Genji? Notice how Hanzo does more damage than Genji?

True, they tried a “fix” that didn’t actually fix anything.

In-depth "Tank on E" rework for Bastion Here’s a rework for him. It’s basically what they’ve been doing to everyone else, but this one should be an improvement on what he is now. Not everyone is in favor of it, but quite a few people are from what I’ve seen so far. At least a version of it if not this one exactly.

As a sniper/Sombra player. Sure, let him be viable. I actually want that, it would make my games a lot easier.

Here is the thing: you have no control over your team and ppl in low elo lacks focus, this is what makes him so strong in that particular elo.

He can have a lot of impact if he has the chance and low elo is usually where he can shine because of that.

I don’t think that shining in low elo is something to be reconned with.

But he can be troubling there and that is exactly the problem with buffing him for high play.

But this is where it gets controversial, those people are in low rank for a reason. We can’t balance around people who are, this is me getting super done with all this and callous, bad enough at the game that they’re in the very low ranks.

Who do you want to satisfy ? :

  • Low experienced casual player who hardly know how to play (I don’t know how to describe bronze players without being insulting)
  • Litterally everyone else

It depends on what your definition of viable is. I personally believe in niche heroes, and I think Bastion should be one of them. I don’t think he should have similar pick rates to other heroes because he is something of a specialist.

Having said that, I do want niche heroes to be good in the niche that they have. Bastion isn’t far from that honestly, he doesn’t need sweeping changes just some tweaks.

From my personal experience, Bastion, without being pocketed by his team, isn’t actually that good in bronze.

let me remind you where the majority of the playerbase is.
GM is like 3% of the playerbase.

I am not against bastion being buffed. In fact I want that since I stopped playing him after the rework but buffing him is just not as easy.

So, you think that because 3% of the player base is in GM, we should rather focus on bronze players ?
Do you know what silver, gold and platinum is ?

The majority of players are around Plat right? He’s generally considered a troll pick there unless it’s pirateship which is super hard countered by Hanzo and after Sombra’s buff she might be played more.

The second I pick Bastion I know someone’s going to question it.

Bronze is 8% of the player base. In my experience, you are in bronze for one of these reasons:
You lack mechanical skill
You have a bad PC and/or internet
You lack gamesense/gameknowlege

Bastion is one of those heroes where’s he’s either really effective with combined team work, or a hero you really do not want on your team. No matter what elo you’re in, he’s either useful or useless.

I’ve never considered him to be a pick I could ever see working as a main/one-trick. Even after whatever re-work they give him, I still think he’ll be a situational hero – just better than right now.

Hey buddy!

I just want to tell you that Sombra will not be played nearly as much even after these buffs. You might see a slight increase in playtime for her, but that will pummel after the first two weeks.