Do any of you actually like Hog?

yeah they removed everything that requires skill, ie lowered the skill ceiling (like every other heroe) and made him way more forgiving and less punishable. let’s rework his hook next cause it’s a skillshot and it’s too hard to land.

I mean he’s alright in my book

Right, because he was being punished and sitting in the worst tank spot for ages.

If they would rebalance anti-nade then they could weaken hog, mauga and a couple of others so they die more easily against more comps. When you balance tanks around their strongest counter, which is Ana for some tanks, then you make them broken against other comps. Fix Ana and things get easier to balance.

I love Hog’s loop. It’s fun, stressful and satisfying. Zarya on the other hand is just boring to me personally

The only people who like hog are hog mains right? Everyone else can agree he is extremely obnoxious, right? :smiley:

His rework was just flat buffs that addressed none of the issues people have playing as or against hog.

Except they removed skill expression by removing his right click.

Those were fun to lob at someone 30m away and get a kill.

I think his self-heal is notched up just a tad too high. In terms of it’s burst, not in terms of the overall healing output. It’s impossible to kill him even if he gets down to almost no HP… I think they should just BARELY notch it down… and I mean BARELY, not a lot, or he’ll be totally useless.

i wish they would revert him to pre-rework-post-season-2-nerf

aka when he was the worst tank in the game :sunglasses:

I like playing with hog and playing against hog (I play support). i just don’t like hog’s character bcoz it scares me! especially those scary skins.

yeah fair enough then, I’m sure hog will get some nerfs soon anyway

I’ve played hundreds of games of hog and what you say simply does not happen often. Sure, if you get a game where the other team are noobs or refuse to swap to anything useful against hog you can get a 0 death game. But it is so rare that happens. Usually Ana comes out right away then orisa/mauga/bastion/sojourn/echo/zen/… I rarely get to the 3rd fight without 3-4 of the enemy team being good hog counters.

Add to that when I see a hog on the other team, whether I am tank, dps or support, it is rare they stay hog for more than 3 fights then switch something like Orisa. He can be fun at the start of the game but usually it doesn’t last. He is so easily countered compared to most tanks.

The experience you claim to be having is not something I see very often and I know other hog players don’t either.

I’m playing more DPS now and yesterday I must have faced hog 10+ times. I got hooked once in the whole day (I remember exactly when it was and why). He is so easily avoided as well if people just take the time to play him for a while and learn his CD rotation and when he will try to hook. Picking simply heroes like soldier and cassidy can make a hog pretty useless as you can just constantly put pressure on him to find cover.

I think just now he is a little OP. But I also think they should fix Ana before they touch Hog. Heroes like Mauga, Hog and JQ and probably a couple of others, are strong enough to be able to play a game with nade and sleep in them. That makes them OP if the other team does not run Ana (or Zen for that matter). If they weaken any of these tanks then Ana will just stomp all over them (she does to some degree already). Ana is the real problem. Sort out 100% anti-heal and then rebalance hog, mauga, jq, etc.

I love Hog. He’s a big fat blob I can farm ult off, whether that’s by healing him or shooting him.

Hog mains, ily :green_heart:

Bro, just admit you hate zarya. Most people I know say they have no clue what they’re doing on zarya especially in 5v5. And I have seen like… 2 good zaryas, most people cannot play her at all, I enjoy seeing the zar swap because of it lol

Just cuz you probs counter swapped to zar with double pocket against d.va junkrat and they never focused you down doesn’t mean she’s an easy character. The same can apply to any other character lol. It’s all talk with people like you. “Oh this heroes so easy!!”, but I know you’d be an awful zarya and hardly play her.

(Not saying ur a terrible player in general btw, I just doubt you have learnt zarya at all and just complain about her, im sure you’re good on other heroes tho)

(Are you okay? Who willingly plays hog 100 matches?)Based on matchmaking games can differ a lot. My tank mmr has plummeted since i dont partake in counterswapping. And rarely play tank anyways. Let me tell when there is a tank diff hog dominates the game.

Dont you see anything wrong with this statement? Unless they swap they get destroyed? Meaning if i want to have fun and they have roadhog its either struggle or swap off the characters i like playing. Thats not overwatch. Overwatch should be about being able to overcome your struggle. Making fun plays. Not about the enemy deciding the match for you

Thats not possible in this format. This is it. This is peak 5v5.

I don’t mind his loop. Hell, I don’t even really feel it too much when it’s his season. I can see why others would hate the get hooked → probably die loop, but I genuinely could not tell you how Hog is meant to threaten & control space without it. Generally I just dip the moment Hog enters my LoS unless I know he doesn’t have Hook for rhe next few seconds, like I don’t think I’ve had a “that Hook was BS” hook happen to me since like… 2017 OW1? Crap, was that 2017?

He’s a masochistic hero. Your tanking style is to get beat up. Like that old episode of the Simpsons where Homer fought Mike Tyson by face tanking his punches.

I only respected hog in 6v6, he was super fun to play and it honestly took a lot of skill to use him because any mistake meant death and free ult charge for the enemy team. The current hog is just more annoying than anything. I don’t think tanks should get one shot combo’s but I also don’t feel hog should be trash tier either. Its tough to balance hog without a proper tank rework

I put this down to Ana mostly. Hog is a bit OP, Mauga is a it OP, JQ is a bit OP. All tanks that Ana keeps in check. They have to be playable when being naded frequently so they get good sustain. It makes them a bit OP. If they would just fix anti+sleep (Ana in general) then they could properly balance these heroes.

It’s not possible to sort out 100% anti-heal so they can rebalance the tanks? Why not? Sure, it may not be possible to balance all the tanks, but the balance of several tanks could be much better and healthier for the game if they would first sort out Ana. She has always been one of the reasons tanks cannot be balanced.