Developers finally just confirmed PTR is coming to live very soon

Symmetra is fine and the nerfs aren’t hard nerfs lol. Especially considering the substantial buff she got beforehand.

But by all means stop playing her. I’d welcome more people to do the same lol

If there aren’t Doomfist and Widow nerfs on this PTR, I’m uninstalling OW and Blizzard launcher.

2/2/2 isn’t going to work until Doomfist and Widow are nerfed.

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Symmetra has more ways to do damage than Zarya therefore Symmetra will already have better damage therefore the M1 should not be stronger. Since they both use the same mechanic they should be the same.

The idea that Sym has more ways to deal damage is flawed because turrets scale inversely with the skill of your opponents.

Their damage should only be counted as a bonus, and nothing more. Sym has exactly the same number of damage dealing tools as Zarya, and less than half of her survivability. At least now she does marginally more damage when charged.

  1. Symmetra has a different secondary fire that has more precision than Zarya.
  2. All damage abilities damage dealt inversely with the skill of your opponents.

Yes its a bonus way to do damage! Also can be used as distraction to allow a Sym to more damage with M1 and/or M2.

No because Sym has a more controllable M2 than Zarya, and Sym has a bonus damage source in her turrets.

That is either an argument for reworking Sym’s M1 or removing some of her Bonus Damage in trade for more survivability. And its fair game to say that Sym should have a different Primary fire mechanic from Zarya.

  1. No it doesn’t.
  2. Only Torb’s turret. You can’t shoot Soldier’s helix rockets out of the air, for example.

And they are straight-up inferior to every other burst ability in the game because they can be destroyed, and the better your opponents are the less likely they are to do anything constructive. So yes, they should be counted as a bonus and nothing more. But people argue for them and lump their maximum possible dps into her M1 damage like they’ll always all be focusing down her target, which isn’t what happens in reality.

First, Zarya’s grenades are much better than Sym’s orbs. They do less but comparable damage, while traveling much faster which makes them far more useful.

Second, we have the problem of her turrets again. You’re lumping her turret damage in with everything else she does like she’s guaranteed to deal damage with them when the reality is the exact opposite.

No it’s not, and no she shouldn’t. At best she should stay where she is because she’s finally competitive. At worst she will need buffing after this nerf (though it’s not looking like it’s that bad).

Zarya has too much DPS compared to Sym, and has since Sym 3.0 got rid of the lock-on beam.

The logic here is simple: Given extremely similar weapon profiles, the DPS should do more damage than the Tank because dealing damage is Sym’s job.

Not “more damage when all bonuses are taken into account”.

More damage. In every single way.
Zarya should be a low-rent Sym if what you’re after is damage and not her tanking abilities.

DPS in general. Power creep is so high that the game might as well be a firework simulator, visually and physically.

Oh, thank you for the link! :heart: