These boots were made for walkin’.
Now you got really defensive…
I think I know why, but that’s irrelevant.
But if you want to have actual converastion, you have to open up to the new ideas, and to the possibility you might be wrong.
But, again, you got defensive. Today we won’t get anywhere with that.
The pride flags of the lgbt community are a symbol of activism. Putting them in OW in my opinion is activism as well as the pride event. These things are not natural to the game. They weren’t always there and were done as a show of support to the lgbt community years after the game released, which is activism. Is part of OW’s story about battling bigotry within the world of OW? No? Then why do these flags need to be in the game?
You didn´t really consider my explanation and arguments in last posts.
“Oh I’m so unfamiliar with it all but I have NB friends and I see all this rage bait content about trans women not passing in women’s restrooms and I’m ESL but I think I know best about how English pronouns work and and and”
So disingenuous.
Lol who is flagging Oranges of all people?
I did, but it’s clear that it’s just you being defensive and saying “nuh-uh” to anything that might remotely put you in a bad light, without any consideration.
That’s why I said it’s pointless now.
I think I’m supposed to make 5 threads complaining about it now, if past experience on this forum informs me correctly.
ETA: Posts restored. Much appreciation to staff and their patience in reading all this in order to respond to false flags.
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I am not defensive. This is how it is - if it´s bad for some reason, I wanna know why - and I can also disagree with that. It´s called discussion.
Oh hey just saw this
Oof, man.
So if the pride content was there on day one it would be okay? Nevermind the fact that name cards are new. I dunno, it’s an awful lot of mental gymnastics and dog whistles to be mad at flags.
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It’s actually completely okay to say trans-women, as long as you don’t exclude them from being women.
“Transwomen and women” 
“Transwomen and ciswomen” 
If it has contextual reason to clarify between transwomen, ciswomen and women, then please do so, no one will tell you off. If you exclude transwomen from the word women, then that’s bad.
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Except I never said they are not women
And I didn’t say you did?
I was simply answering your question…
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They literaly have word “women” in it - you can´t exclude it.
And I told you why. It’s the same argument that is used to push trans women out of women spaces…
But you just say “nuh-uh”. That’s literally defense mechanism
No, that´s literaly - I disagree with your statement, if it comes to me.
That’s a really weak argument.
You are still creating segregation here, where it isn’t necessary.
I think in both - social and biological ways. I can´t leave the biology out as someone, who do nature science. That´s why my thinking might be different from people, who don´t deal with this on daily basis in their profession.
Genderwise - no segregation.
And your justification is basically “nuh-uh”… Because you don’t want to think that you might be a part of the problem.
It’s definition of defense mechanic.
I do understand this to an extent. May not be exactly the same, but I am autistic and went through special needs schooling for it (before else anyone else makes the joke, I did in fact ride the short bus and laughed about it daily 
). I’ve had to learn to be patient with others as well as myself. I’ll sometimes ask for clarification, either because the other person wasn’t clear or I simply wasn’t understanding them fully.
The internet also doesn’t always make it easy to learn about more sensitive topics. Because a lot of us will have initial misunderstandings about very serious issues that effect the daily lives of others and those initial views. Sometimes you may have to parse or evaluate why others are having a more intense reaction towards you. Sometimes they’re right and it can be a good moment for introspection and growth. And sometimes, they aren’t and you’ll have to go from there about how you want to handle the conversation moving forward.
I know that while this can make conversation more complicated since I may have to more or less decipher hidden meanings by asking or looking things up more than others might, that I can’t reasonably expect others to change how they act towards me going forward beyond the basics of respect I would expect of anyone.
Sometimes it’s them. Sometimes, I realize I’ve held a view which may have been harmful when my intent has never been to harm anyone and it took me a little longer to see why.
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