Deflect is not op

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Deflect is fine.
Its hitbox is a big cube around Genji, that protects from all sides except rear.
because it’s a cube it you shoot from angles, and he is not facing you directly the shots will get deflected but away at off angles. so at least you wont hit yourself.

Melee while he can deflect. It actually just negates Genji from damage nothing else happens no reflection. so some character like brig and Doom can go to town on a Genji. with only Brigs rocket flail being affected, but Whip shot and shield works fine. and Dooms shooting being the only thing Deflect is useful against. and of course beam weapons and other stuff already mentioned.
furthermore just learn to look for and bait it out of a Genji and strike when on CD.

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Deflect does NOTHING against the following ults → D.Va, Doomfist, Queen, Orisa, Ramattra, Reinhardt, Sigma, Ashe, Bastion, Junkrat, Sombra, Moira, Wrecking ball

Deflect has some partial effect → Winston, Baptiste, Genji

Deflect works fully against those ults → Hog, Cass, Hanzo, Mei, Pharah, Soldier, Sojourn, Torb, Tracer, Zarya, Reaper

A lot of the above are more for protection than actually returning an ult as well.

Defensive/passive ults are not included (Symmetra, Lucio…)

Meanwhile Suzu can stop… well, everything. And to more than herself.

Please tell me the last time you saw a Genji do an ult deflect that even counts as a play. I think I deflected a Grav in OW2 once, Zaryas have to be braindead to shoot it into you.

When is the last time you saw Suzu save her team from a teamwipe. Probably the last time you played Overwatch with a decent Kiriko.

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Not true. Its a square, not that big, similar to a Brig barrier that doesn’t cover his feet if you look up, and it will not deflect something once the angle is too steeper than a certain amount of degrees (an amount far less than 90 degrees, so it does not deflect from the side at all).

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It’s not OP. However, the latency issues associated with it annoy me sometimes. I’ll be scoped in and shoot when he’s not in his deflect animation, but then it’ll get deflected and he’ll start waving his arms AFTER I already shot. I’ve basically learned to shoot a quick uncharged shot on him to try and bait out the deflect and reposition myself for the kill shot.

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This game has shooter advantage, so this literally isn’t a thing. Its Genji that gets this effect, aka he pops his deflect and gets hit through it.

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It’s just unfair. Deflect is stronger than Doomfist’s power block.

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it makes bad positioning rewarding

its a 2nd chances for genji
and its a free get out of jail free card :wink:
life with it

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are you this salty that your sombra is useless that youre taking out your frustration on us now? the irony of calling it a “get out of jail free card” at that lmao

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XDDDD
yes i am mad bcs sombra got nerfed to the ground and she wasnt even the problem

and widow/hanzo is running around free and still no nerfs
and same with genji he is fine how he is now no buffs needed
maybe nerf blade a little bit

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Not on it’s own. Combined with,

.dash
.dash refresh on kill
.double jump
.wall climb
.cone secondary

This guy has utility out the wazu, an extremely bloated kit.

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Stop callin gneji bloated untill you start calling mccassady and reaper bloated

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O rly!?

Cass,
.Fth
.Roll
. grenade

Not bloated

Reaper,
.Teleport
.lifesteal

Not bloated

They don’t even break the four ability mark. Their utility is also lacking. You don’t know what bloated is.

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Ow you want to play that game lets look at reaper

Teliport
Invonrability
Speed boost
Cleanse
Reloads gun
Life steal
Almost double the dps
Can cancel wraith into a head shot

Cassady
Magnet grenate giving him an easy one shot combo
a free reload
Damage reduction on roll
Fan the hammer
Higher single shiot damge then genji

I can strip things and make them look way most impressive then they are together

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Lol, you’ve just lost all credibility.

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Lol reloading your gun is insanly good for both of those heros are you insane lol i think your the one loosing credibility with your stringing of heros abilities

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Pretty sure Genji doesn’t win the matchup if you simply wait out his one defensive cooldown and then shoot him since he doesn’t have any defence left?? :rofl:
How is a Genji with 2 sec deflect doing anything to stall a game
Cmon now NerfMercy we know you’re biased but calm down

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Nah bro deflect is a strong ability, it’s one of the few that can deal with ultis.