Then so does beat drop where Lucio can give shields and healing/speed at the same time.
Your point?
Damage Boosts that apply to teammates canât stack up
Damage Taken debuff applied to enemies can stack
Although Zenyatta is the only character who increases damage taken by enemies, if any other hero were to have a similar debuff ability and assuming these damage boosts changes were also implemented, they would stack up too.
The point is not to remove synergy between heroes. Itâs just to avoid those âpress Q on rein and boost him 2 winâ scenarios which are (personally atleast) really infuriating me. They donât even try to win, they use their ult and ggclap.
And again, these ults charge up rather quickly so in 2 teamfights theyâll be ready to do the same thing again.
i have no idea but i somehow fixed it lol
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Just made me laugh just seeing this block of clickable text
That is incorrect.
Yes, they are opposites. But Zenâs isnât better. Both are situational. While Zen amplifies a targetâs damage taken, that does nothing against shields and requires him to maintain LOS on the target - keeping himself at risk.
Mercyâs damage boost works against whatever her partner is shooting at - including shields. She also can do it from behind cover or around corners, keeping herself relatively safe.
They are situational, where both have cases where itâs stronger than the other. Zenâs is better for focus fire, but Mercyâs helps a target that rapidly switches between shooting at different hostiles, and thus is more flexible to an evolving battle.
That lie of âZenâs is so much betterâ is what got it nerfed because some clowns thought there was too much damage in the game but forgot that the damage came from all the heroes, so they just blamed a support and nerfed that and that alone. Oh and lookie at that, it did nothing to fix the problem.
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Fine, letâs switch Zenyattaâs discord damage taken to damage reduction.
Iâll sit back and watch the forums burst into flames.
New ability description ?
Discord Orb: Help the enemy by reducing their damage taken, causing Discord among your team
Oh no, itâs 25% reduced damage output.
Let me know when Ana, Orissa or Bap get their ultimates straight out of spawn and Iâll get back to you ion this. Youâre also working under the assumption that one team gets their ultimates while the other has zero cooldowns or ultimates and have completely let go of their keyboards.
This is funny because a nano boosted rein also doesnât change any breakpoints.
Rein hammer swing = 85. 50% of 85=42.5. 85+42.5=127.5. It only changes on the second swing on a 5 meter arc. 127.5 is a easy number to heal through with support focus. Which is rebalancing resources across the teams. Exactly how the game is balanced.
Rein firestrike = 100. 50% of 100 is 50. 100+50=150. No new breakpoints except Tracer.
Nano boost lets Rein take more space aggressively and rarely actually ends in kills. It makes space for other people to get kills.
Unless youâre talking about applying nano and damage boost or orisa/bap ultimates. If so I will refer you back to my earlier comment of the more resources put into a single hero the more it should sway fights.
Zen is a shield buster himself and Mercys damage boost actually contributes less damage to shields then it would for her to swap to gun and shoot it herself.
Well that and him becoming the center of every meta with it once it was at 30. 30 discord = zen irreplaceable in dive. 30 discord = zen pushes ana out of goats. 30 discord meant zen was a must pick and he was. Mercy only ever appears in sniper meta and that time she became a sweater eating bug
Oh thatâs what you meant. That would be a nice ability but not for Zen. Give that to a potential future Support in Overwatch 2
Let me know when 2 team fights is as fast as 10 seconds respawn and Iâll get back to you on this as well
Yeah itâs real easy to counter a whole Team pushing you while their Rein is Nanoboosted, Mercy Boosted, Orisa Boosted with a big Amp Matrix right between you
Are we back to begging for nerfs for middle-of-the-road heroes? Lovely.
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How is it not a damage boost for his own team? lol
We are trying to remove utility, that is useful for DPS.
Time and time again, when support can give their DPS an edge, people want to get rid of it asap.
We are back to begging for nerfs of heroes, that make worse DPS win. Or even give them a chance to win. I will never grasp logic behind eradicating any buffs supports can give to DPS, but it seems to be the way.
SheâŚwhat?
A moth.
Okay. Whew, that joke flew right over my head, didnât it? I was thinking there was some game glitch I didnât know aboutâŚyou know, the âbugâ in the programming sense?
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Oh thatâd be terrifying LOL
A bug that would eat your sweater 
When she was a moth.