Lucio, for over a year, had a 95%+ pickrate.
Which would put her at S-tier for a month and a half. Nothing compared to Mercy or Lucio or even Zenyatta.
And she was only a part of the meta at the time, not driving it.
Because the World Cup had Dive and GOATs, two metas in which D.Va is (was, she’s not played much in GOATs anymore) played.
Barriers block the same number of ultimates as DM, and do it more consistently. So you don’t really have a point either.
Yes, D.Va had a high pickrate in S1 of OWL, but that’s only half the story. It wasn’t because she was particularly OP or broken or whatever, it’s because the meta was Dive and there were only two tanks capable of diving. If there’s only two options, of course both of them will have high pickrates.
Notice how the Dive meta ended once the DPS flanker dive heroes finally had a (broken) counter in the form of Brigitte? There’s your indicator of who the real S tier heroes were in that meta.
Lucio was S tier just like Dva was so I don’t see why you bring that up lol
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Stage 1 she had the 2nd highest pickrate
Stage 4 she had the 3rd highest and for season playoffs she had the second highest. That’s S tier for the whole season. Lucio wasn’t even meta Season 1.
No other character had a pickrate ABOVE 60%. Dva was the only one. Not even Zen, a hero who was also played in both goats and Dive.
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Shields don’t negate ults.
Tell that to:
…oh, and:
So, you know, half the cast that can have their ults negated by shields.
Halfway through the season Genji was replaced by Widow. Also Winston Zarya Dive was a thing before Winston Dva. Dive also wasn’t played all the time.
When Brig came out and the dps/Winston stopped being played Dva still seen a lot of play.
You know what I meant. I said it earlier. Dva eats ults that Shields don’t. Def matrix is superior at ult negation as it prevents them from even doing damage.
Well done, you’ve moved the goalposts from ‘D.Va was S-tier’ to ‘D.Va was played a lot’.
Congrats. Now we can acknowledge the fact that there are 3 off-tanks, and that only 2 of them were really considered viable at the time. Of course one of them will see more play than the other - just like how Zarya is played more than D.Va now.
This entire argument is stupid anyway because your sour grapes about the state of the meta one year ago isn’t a reason to dumpster a hero now. Dive is long dead because Tracer can’t be used without getting a shield to the face and Winston is no match for all the powercreeped DPS heroes.
That’s not S-tier. S-tier, per this game original standards (which were Overbuff’s meta reports), is 95%+ pickrate.
A-tier is >80%, B-tier is >50%, C-tier is >20%, D-tier is >5%.
Lucio is the only hero that has held S-tier for a lengthy period of time, and D.Va held it less than the ones I mentionned.
In the OWWC, supports were shuffled around a lot. Brig was in GOATs only, Zen, Lucio, Moira and Ana filled the other one or two spots when Mercy wasn’t. All 6 supports heroes were played in OWWC.
For the tanks though, only 4 were really played. Winston and D.Va were the meta Dive tanks, as they should be, while D.Va was played alongside Rein and Zarya in GOATs. Simply because there was noone else to fill that spot.
“Negating” is a pointless thing most of the time. You’re on the wrong side of DM, you die the same as if you were on the wrong side of the barrier.
It’s only useful when it comes to ults that nothing else block anyway.
Moved Goalposts? Lmaooo
She never had a pickrate below 79% last year in the league. 3rd place is the lowest she ever was last year.
This is straight up trash and you know it. “Pointless”
Yea Dva Eating reaper/Mei/Pharah ult is pointless. You got it bruh.
Reaper’s ult is blocked by barriers, and DM “negating” (for 2 out of the 3 seconds it lasts) it doesn’t stop it from being Top 3 in kills/game.
Mei’s ult isn’t blocked by anything else.
Pharah’s ult is equally blocked by DM and barriers, both will go down after 2s in the best of cases.
EDIT: if you had watched OWL recently, you’d notice how Barrage isn’t hindered in any way by DM.
Reaper ult can break a shield. He can’t break Dm
Pharah ult also breaks shields but dm takes an infinite amount of damage.
Pharah ult in League definitely gets hindered by DM and other things. Not gonna debate that.
Reaper and Pharrah ults last longer than DM. DM does not ‘negate’ them. And that’s assuming the Reaper and Pharrah throw them directly into D.Va’s face.
With 510 damage ? Doubt it. Orisa, Rein and Winston’s barriers have more HP than that.
In Rein’s case, it will block 2s of the barrage, same as DM.
In Orisa’s case, she can just kill the stationnary Pharah quickly. And she doesn’t have to move.
Yup, you definitely don’t watch OWL.
To be fair though, if D.Va’s teammates can’t manage to kill an ulting Reaper or Pharah in two seconds, they deserve to be deleted. The point stands though that DM and a Rein Shield both at full charge/health have about the same blocking power against Barrage and D.Va is worse off in blocking Death Blossom.
She negates them both for 2 seconds. You can nitpick all you want dude but that’s the word a person would use to describe the effect of defense Matrix.
Also yes let’s just act like dvas don’t just fly into Pharah/76/reaper/Mcrees faces in order to deny their ults.
If we’re talking about partial ults, then everything you’ve said also applies to shields then.
Look, I get that you see a lot of D.Va in your plat games, but the game is balanced around a higher level of play where D.Va hasn’t been doing well in quite some time. Gold/Plat is about the only place where D.Va can actually be played right now.
In the higher ranks her pick and winrates have tanked in recent months - especially after the most recent nerf and something really does need to be done - not just for D.Va, but for every tank that isn’t Orisa and Roadhog.
Reaper ult does more than that with people behind the shield. Also Orisa shield is static and reaper can move beyond it.
Yea Ok lmao. Most of the time Barrage is setup by Emp because it won’t usually wont kill without it.
Lmao says the private profile. Your argument is terrible. But you got it dude
Also like I said before: Dva is bugged right now.
Rarely you’ll see more than one person directly behind the shield.
It has a short cooldown, she can just drop another.
It doesn’t even need EMP. Most of the Barrages I’ve seen recently were done on their own and got 2 kills easily, nothing the D.Va could do.