D.va and Zenyatta nerfed


#115

that’s a silly argument. if zen was moved to a dps category I’d argue that he’d need significant improvements to his damage (faster projectile speed, ideally). of course, I’d also argue that he shouldn’t really be doing much healing and he definitely shouldn’t have transcendence if he was a dps too.

the whole “oppressed support main” gag is incredibly boring. come up with an actual argument if you don’t want your hero nerfed instead of putting words in other people’s mouths.


#116

roadhog is directly countered by reaper and doesn’t really pair with him all that well. d.va is only soft-countered by reaper and pairs with him extremely well (DM death blossom, help him burst down supports, contest ranged heroes to let reaper do his job). you sorta have a point with mei but reaper reinforces d.va’s pickrate more than anything unless you think we’re going back to zarya/rein deathball meta.

what’s the problem with reviving old metas anyways? I’d prefer a few months of triple tank or something to the 2nd straight year of dive.


#117

Soldier 76 should be weak against a diving D.Va. Her entire job is to contest high ground.


#118

Sure, her missles getting a 22% decrease in dmg isnt a lot…

Well, can we ALSO HAVE A 22% buff in defense matrix cooldown?!?

That isnt a lot too, right?


#119

22% in explosive damage. That’s not 22% overall because of direct damage and thus not comparable to a flat 22% increase in DM


#120

33% decrease in explosive damage, 22% decrease overall (9->7)


#121

Im not saying buff the DM duration. Im saying the cooldown.

But its not a lot, right? Double standards people.

Btw her micro missle dmg are halved when going up against armored opponents.


#122

This is silly. Zen already have zero ways to defend himself. Often, the only thing he can do is floating around a corner while charging. Releasing that into a flanker IS the only thing that he can do. And THAT is nerfed?? This is not what he “needs”.


#123

Just the exact Reaper buff I wanted earlier, before he got the Wraith Form reload buff. Now he is literally a hellfire shotgun McCree with a Combat Roll.


#124

yes. correct. but soldier shouldn’t have 0 counterplay to that. just like ana has sleep dart to outplay flankers, soldier has biotic field to deal with d.va. d.va should not be an instant “I win” button vs all hitscan.

edit: d.va’s entire job isn’t solely to contest high ground either. d.va’s primary duty will always be to peel for the rest of her team (primarily tanks and supports). contesting high ground is secondary. just like winston’s primary duty is to initiate fights, and his secondary job is to contest high ground & supports.


#125

Hahaha exactly. This feels like it’s not a nerf to the character in general but a nerf to Jjonak.
The character himself still have plenty of weaknesses like the fact he doesn’t heal much and has 0 mobility and solutions againt flankers.


#126

I didn’t hear from this!

My baby is nerfed!


#127

that would defeat the purpose of trying to tone down a hero that is overperforming.


#128

How would increasing her cooldown defeat the purpose? It’d be an additional nerf.

Zen on the other hand should get a 15% decrease to the charge time of his volley to compensate for the fire rate reduction, the point of the nerf wasn’t to bring him down strengthwise but rather just stop him sniping people with his right click, without compensation that’s just a nerf he didn’t need.


#129

the way he was arguing it seemed like he was asking for a compensation buff.


#130

I meant 22% buff.

My mistake


#131

If the damage on her missiles are lowered then the range of her guns should be increased. But D.VA should not be touched to begin with.


#132

I find it funny Hanzo mains here being able to mow through rows of players with lucky LMB headshots but Zen charging up for a few seconds and KOing someone makes the sky fall down? He also has to reload after several volleys y’know?


#133

Dva needs to be nerfed more and Zenyatta is fine.


#134

Why would the devs also buff her? That defeats the purpose of the nerf