Competitive is a mess

Well yes. :slightly_smiling_face: But what about the people who advise to “Get a group and rank up ez!”? :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :wink:

It seems like at least 70% of the time when I try to cover up for a teammates mistake as support I’ll get myself killed. I got to get in the habit of not trying to save their lives when they overextend or rush into early, or in your case not compensating for his lack of awareness.

Kind of makes sense though I mean you are covering for a mistake meaning you’re about to commit a mistake yourself.

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I mean
 You can do it that way, sure


But when you decide you just wanna play competitive for a few games, you’re going to develop less game sense since you’re consistently used to communicating with people.

Whereas if you learn to be a little/lot more self-sufficient, you’ll be capable of doing a lot more in the games where you have communication and consistent teamwork.

100%, Overwatch (in its current state) is based around playing in groups. But if your sole purpose of playing the game is to rank up, I’d argue you’re playing for the wrong reasons.

No buddy i like how the forums try to attack people because they disagree it show’s their bias how is that a awareness thing in the slightest on my part but but fine just to shut you and CALCULUS up since you both seem to think others can’t make mistakes and it all MUUST be me oh my
 :rofl:. We can agree to disagree.

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brig main btw
in silver


you’ve barely hit gold
and you’re telling me how to play. what in the lol is that
 I have a freaking moira, torb and a tracer alt accounts that are all above you’re SR range all sitting in plat to master
 and this one just quick play’s and does it’s placements
every few seasons and is STILL higher than you
 but yes you of all people should be telling people not even me PEOPLE how we are making mistakes
 Yes I make them just like anyone else but good lord please don’t tell others how to play when you don’t know how to yourself
 like i don’t even ever really pull rank stuff everr like everr but my god don’t tell others how to play if you don’t know how to yourself
 maybe it’s a alt account like this one and I need to hush we will see on your response i assume


Everyone makes mistakes yes that’s painfully obvious
 heck maybe the bap was having a bad day but that is no way a bad positioning spot for me when its literally the main spot where widows sit in every freaking elo ever including top 500 but yea my positioning was terrible. lmao.

asking for healing corner peaking even to make sure they could stay where they were and heal both me and the team is my positioning problem lmao
 like this has to be a joke. I can’t
 like cant really understand someone else’s logic when the baps high ground second point Val, he’s corner peaking aiming down at them healing them (awesome <3 what hes supposed to be doing) im at 15hp fighting a ashe and a hanzo I ask for healing see this dude literally tilt his camera in like a big circle doesn’t spot me goes back to healing them (cool
 w.e) i walk towards the other side you know the entrance behind him maybe he will heal me there
 NOPE. lol you can sit here and disagree all you want but even at higher ranks people have healers that ignore the entire team even to only heal and damage boost their carry/friend. (YEESS i should have probably grabbed the small health pack below me to the right in the other room)
 but I also shouldnt grab health packs 24/7 to compensate for a healer having the awareness of a snail and if you literally see someone turn their camera in a big circle trying to look for you when you’re barely to their right that is very much so a awareness thing but you can sit here and push it off onto me or another widow, tracer who ever you want doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You can sit in your blissful ignorance all you want it.

But i assume forums will sit here and deny that happens too and ill just see myself out then because you guys blindly protect failed and flawed systems to let this game die and don’t say it isn’t either because it is most of top 500 and OWL find ladder as a absolute joke and have for a very long time. Scrimming > ladder any day I’d pay to just be in scrims at this point only ladder is just nightmare fuel.

like if you want i can pull out my gigs and gigs folder of people telling me completely different than you that i’m a hard carry and much more
 but that’s bragging and i don’t normally post any usually
 lol i think i posted one very recently if you wanna snoop in my posts <3 . but yes
 i know i need to improve still just like anyone else not even joking here but that’s not the answer to every forum post that someone says that they had a bad teammate you can act like it is all you want doesn’t make it true. the MM is designed to pair people under-performing with people overperforming maybe it’s as simple as that but i want to face harder and harder enemies have a rough long match to the freaking death not a pub stomp cause a bap cant look right
 and even has ample free time and heals full HP teammates lmao.

I just wanna explain to people :slight_smile: including you not all your losses are your fault and taking people’s advice on these forums that it’s only you and you can improve and your game quality by just getting better is a lie to them and I don’t like liars especially saying match quality will get better is a lie to them because game quality never improves even in higher ranks you still get people like that bap lol.

I might be having a Deja VU moment or something, but I swear I have seen this EXACT text written a few days ago.

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probably by someone else im sure others have the same arguments. These forums are filled with everyone and their nephew’s because that’s what blizzard wanted instead of a extremely competitive game. It was even their big thing when they released Overwatch we want every to play people who have experience in FPS and one’s that have zero.

All i’m saying is their match maker is hot something and a lot of people know it but there’s still some people who will sit on the forums and defend it that it’s working perfectly till the day blizz dies and it’s a little sad.

idc about the bap even screw it ignore that conversation you can’t sit here and say the match maker works fine and if you do you are really living in some blissful ignorance when basically even owl teams would rather scrim then touch the ladder. it’s so inconsistent it’s a joke.

edit: maybe you saw a old post or comment of mine a few days ago about pushing decaying SR more, reworked match maker, and even the cheeky doom tank rework which people hate? idk if you find something post it or what not.

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People don’t seem to understand that this is a first person shooter. Its so much easier to look at your other team mates and see what they are doing wrong vs what you are doing wrong. Everyone in low ranks makes mistakes, pointing out every mistake is pointless because you are also there for a reason if you cant climb out. 90% of the time when people say “Well its my team mates fault” just ask for a replay code and its so blatant that they are no different.

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According to the story and how it was told, it was the players lack of awareness that got him killed. That’s all the information I had to go on, idk what your getting mad over,it’s not like I witnessed the game first hand. How do you not understand that my comment is soley based off his testimony.

It’s not like he said it was you either but if you want to go say you were that player then fine, but your beef should be with the one who made you look bad in the first place

EDIT: Oh wait you’re the same person only with a different icon. Dude in that case I don’t know what you’re mad about I was agreeing with your story

I mean you’re literally the one who started writing about his lack of awareness first

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There are no FAIR games in OW. It’s stomp or be stomped depending on who has the better smurf.