Changed my mind about Widow and oneshots in general

You’ve clearly never tried to ambush a Widow as, say, McCree, only to have her turn and headshot you just out of Flashbang range. I’ve watched Widows pop Tracers diving them. Constantly and consistently. I’ve headshot more than my fair share of dashing Genji players before they can even get to me.

A skilled Widow requires almost as much coordination as Bastion to deal with unless you have a better Widow. Except Bastion can’t oneshot outside of ult.

I expect that, but not for these reasons (because I’m not sure how this Widow thing relates to 2-2-2)

Then you might as well nerf every hero in the ground now you’re on it. Smurfs will always go for the most effective hero to stomp. In the extreme they’ll just go for battle Mercy.

You don’t balance a game according to those that seek to abuse it. And if Blizzard is too greedy to do anything about smurfs, then, frankly, this game deserves to die.

I agree wholeheartedly.

There’s ways to tackle this without nerfs anyway.

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one shot was the meta prior to goats. hanzo/widow/doom, zarya, rein, mercy, zen/ana. Basically it was the 2/2/2 that lead us into a 3/3 stacking as much hp and healing as possible so you don’t get one shot. Forced 2/2/2 puts us right back into one shot, a widow comp.

this would be the best solution, honestly. introduce more mechanics for players to counter snipers reliably. A new hero that can smoke out sight lines, or temporarily blind enemy’s would go a long way.

Out of my last 12 games 11 I was playing against a widow :slight_smile:

so?

The similiar think was going with goats
Yet it was destroing this game for some reason :man_shrugging:

The buttons A D and crouch are your friends.

If only Widowmaker wasn’t just insta-kills or else zero value to her team. Hanzo is better to play with/against, he does things (storm arrows, ult, contesting objective) outside of one-shots. But some people really like sniping and want a 1-trick-pony character I guess.

And when was Dive then? :thinking:

Decay does not change your MMR (Match Making Rating) so decayed accounts will still be put in matches around their original SR.
When Kenzo was in diamond, he was actually a diamond player who sometimes got cool highlight clips.

Kinda says something about her, doesn’t it?

Define viable, stats wise.

Because that 1.80 pickrate and 46.95% winrate in Gold doesn’t seems so viable.
Cite: Overbuff, this week/month stats.

I was scared of Forum Doomfist, but now Forum WidowMaker is the new nightmare fuel

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No, he let himself decay, and then messed around. You can float in an elo. Just don’t complete stomp your opponents every game. Pretty sure he went on record in one of his video’s saying he teamed with a few of his diamond friends too. And for real, when he was a diamond getting all those clips, he already had another gm account, and was gm prior on his main. He wasn’t a hardstuck diamond by any means.

before triple support when brigitte released and grav+dragon was shortly after that with hanzo rework.

Seeing you quote yourself over and over gives off a vibe of desperation that you don’t have any help to back this up.

Maybe he did. I’m pretty confident at the very beginning he used to be actually diamond though.

Regardless, decay does not change MMR. If a GM player decays all the way to 3000, he will still be put in GM matches.

Widow IS a nightmare above 3500.

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nobody said it did. What is being said is a player who’s capable of GM is more than capable to float in lower elo’s. Yes, a gm who decayed to 3000 will still get put in a gm game, but he can intentionally play subpar, or then team up with sub gm players and drop his sr considerably.