Cassidy remains a punching bag in high ranks

The data that the playerbase has access to, specifically overbuff, still points out that Cassidy is way above average in GM, and that he is in a better spot that most of the role.

Said data almost always coincides with the dev’s data that has been revealed from time to time, because that is exactly how statistic studies work: with samples, not totals.

At this point its rather obvious that this whole ‘‘Cassidy F Tier’’ thing is actually ‘‘Cassidy is B+ tier… why isnt he S tier instead!!!’’.

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Perfect data, with bad math, is still wrong.

Sir, I work with Quartz counter tops, the most complcated math I do is (Length*Width)/144=SqFt.

Im not a game stastic analysiser.

Expecting everyone to know every term in the industry is delusional.

It would be like be going “Its kinda depressing that our coustomers dont understand what a ZR Profile is, or they dont understand that depending on Dimentions getting a miter thermoformed edge profile is impossible”

Like really? Why you gotta be so condescending today? I understand that we just got a foot of snow last night but that isnt a excuse to be so agressive.

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The way I see it is why are people taking it as an immoral personal attack when I point out they might not know all the technical design details.

holly clueless

Because when you say

It comes across as arrogant and “i smatter then you”

Immagine this situation, a teacher and a student.

The student says “I dont understand this promblem fully”

And the teacher goes “Its depressing how people dont understand this”

The student will take that as basicaly saying “Your stupid”

Saying its depressing for someone to not understand somthing, especailly when that something isnt common knowledge can only be interpreted so many ways.

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If you’re a world class concert violinist, and you act like a world class concert violinist, in the context of discussions about violins. Is that arrogance, or confidence?

As for “smarter”. No.
But I’m absolutely more experienced at this stuff than 99% of OWL or Top500 players.

Im not debating if you qualified or not.

But your acting like a arrogant violinist who just insults people trying to learn how to play the violinist.

“Its depressing that a newbie violin player cant play spring sonata #5 blindfolded, how plebeian of them”

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Which again, I don’t see how somebody is a worse person because they don’t understand the math used in a videogame mechanic.

People are taking things that are not personal, and making them personal.

That said, for the amount of near obsession people have about winrates. I’ve probably only encountered maybe 2 dozen people total, that have even a rough idea what the math is.

i mean everybody in this thread is kind of thinking the same thing

that your tone is condescending. maybe it’s just the way you talk and you don’t notice it, but a lot of your comments just have that “i’m better than you” tone to them

and that is why people are pointing it out

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I mean that was always the case for the most part, their was a reason he had stupid amounts of damage before.

Flash was kind of one and done tool that needed the cassidy to have considerable cordination with his team to focus fire targets with him. Otherwise theirs a good chance the target would get saved by stacking healing and tank tools.

Or the nade just gets outplayed by a tracer or genji that dodged such.

In what world did fan the hammer stop being a thing?

Literally the only situations where cassidy didnt get a flash the hammer free win was against heroes with small hitboxes like Tracer. Every non-tank with normal or big hitboxes was instantly killed by that 300+ damage burst.

And even there Cassidy can just headshot the Tracer instead.

Flashbang was one of the strongest DPS abilities in OW1 and it didnt require a single ounce of coordination with your team to get results out of it.

Because how to write and compose your post are implying that they are.

Its not just 1 person misreading your post, this entire thread is pointing how how you are coming acrossing.

You might not mean it, but that doesnt mean you arnt doing it.

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An actually smart person would make all this information and formulas digestible for other people, instead of putting themselves in a pedestal and regurgitating it with links and jargon.

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I’m literally a dps main, you’re over exaggerating to an insane degree.

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Mei is doing better than Cassidy as well. The only dps that seem to be doing worse are Pharah, Reaper, and Symmetra.

Oh you mean the feed zarya bubble button, almost forgot that existed.

Joking aside being a slow character with a strong close range tool, is kind of only good if the enemy comes to you.

And that enemy also isn’t stack things like DM, bubble, and 600+ effective HP.

But to land the Fan, you have to .

A: get into a position where at least roll will get you into ideal range.

B: Have the stun not be eaten, blocked, deflected, or dodged by dash/blink/jet (use to do that one purposely to mess with cassidy’s free cancel ability and retain momentum button to get time and a half height. )

C: Not have any of those get in between you and the FTH target.

if you manage to get to that point sure… But like most dps can get value with out needing some else to protect them and get them to that position to do that without dieing.

And don’t get me started on all the cassidy’s that take to days to walk around a flank by themselves. Just to die and complain when he dies and get’s nothing done, in a position like no one had LOS to him to begin with.

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Mei is doing better mostly because of Mauga being OP than herself being a better DPS. She is good against and along him. I fully expect her to go back to average the moment Mauga catches nerfs.

And if we are talking exclusively about high ranks (which is the topic’s… topic), then no, Cassidy is doing better than more that just Pharah, Reaper and Symmetra. Junkrat, Torb, Bastion and Echo are pretty much worse than he is in GM.

The only heroes that are better than him right now (aside Mei, who is more of a symptom) are Soldier, Hanzo, Genji and Sojourn. Widow and Ashe can be argued too, but both are being pretty much outdone by Sojourn while Cassidy occupies an entirely different role as a DPS hero.

Well again, I see that as people inappropriately taking things personally, which should not be personal.

Saying “I know more than you” doesn’t mean the same as “I am demeaning your value as a person”.

except your not just saying “I know more then you”

You also saying “You opinion is invalid” “Its depressing” “Its your fault for not knowing”

If it was just “I know more” then this whole thread wouldnt be here. But you not just saying that you adding other words and context that change the meaning.

Saying “I know more” vs “I know more and since you dont know your point is invalid” or “I know more and its depressing others dont know” hold different meanings.

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