I feel like I conceded to a lot of your points here, so I’m pretty surprised to see you still accusing me of not “comprehending” it. You guys on here are so allergic to differing opinions that its pretty funny, but I guess I can’t say I’m surprised.
In Ow 1 I’d play the heck out the events to unlock everything, and I actually had fun playing to do so! When Ow2 monetized everything it felt bad at first, but then the game wasn’t as fun as it once was so missing out on cosmetics and stuff didn’t feel so bad anymore.
It does feel kinda cruddy though that this is their anniversary and as a ‘thank you’ for keeping them relevant they’re allowing people to give them more money. Won’t be any of my money though, I know that for sure.
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That’s actually funny because my first thought when I read your post was, well at least you understood mine.
I was just adding on to the point because I’m super bored, lol.
They brought back Sombra Demon Hunter, which was Blizzcon Virtual Ticket bonus in 2018. So whilst unlikely, them being Blizzcon bonuses doesn’t automatically rule out the possibility of them returning.
Welp… at least the game is free 
I’m with Ducky on this one. Having a reason to play the gameplay is a part of gameplay. Skins as rewards was an indirect part of gameplay for many people. The Why is just as important to gameplay as the How to many.
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that was a recolor though, there was a tyrande recolor too that was in the shop around christmas time i think
It’s not what the word gameplay means. You can “be with ducky” all you want, you are wrong, lol. Gameplay is gameplay. This is not something I am just making up to be stupid.
Here, I googled it for you:
“1. the tactical aspects of a video game, such as its plot and the way it is played, as distinct from the graphics and sound effects.”
Learn what words mean, because knowledge is power!
Good reward systems in game design are directly tied to gameplay.
gamedesignknowledge(dot)com/blog-post/intrinsic-vs-extrinsic-rewards#:~:text=In%20the%20context%20of%20gaming,encourage%20specific%20behaviors%20or%20accomplishments.
Defining Intrinsic and Extrinsic Rewards
Intrinsic rewards stem from the inherent enjoyment and satisfaction derived from engaging in an activity itself. They are internal motivators driven by personal enjoyment, curiosity, mastery, and autonomy. In the context of gaming, intrinsic rewards manifest through the pleasure of solving puzzles, mastering gameplay mechanics, or experiencing a compelling narrative.
On the other hand, extrinsic rewards are external incentives provided by the game designer to encourage specific behaviors or accomplishments. These rewards often come in the form of points, badges, levels, virtual currency, or unlockable content. Extrinsic rewards serve as tangible acknowledgments of progress and achievement within the game world.
Reward systems are tied to gameplay. Skins in OW1 would be considered extrinsic rewards. Having cool new skins linked to currency you could gain from lootboxes, which you would gain by playing the game. And you would obtain faster by winning games as opposed to losing games… Made more people want to win more games. Having an incentive to win more games to earn more xp, affects the general gameplay of everyone. Less people slacking off because they have a goal to achieve.
Having currency you can earn in game to purchase new skins that you equip to represent you and what you enjoy, is a form of gameplay loop. Which sadly no longer exists, at least not in a pleasurable way in OW2.
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Your biggest mistake is that you’re sticking to one set of definitions and believing we all have to agree with that one rigid definition. After all, most would consider a gameplay reward “a part of the gameplay”. So one could argue skins are “a part of the gameplay” in that way.
Its okay to not agree, but this “No, I’m right. You must say I’m right” mindset on here is ridiculous. I do not have to agree with the sentence
Like sure, that’s a definition, but what happens if I disagree? You’ll call me wrong? So call me wrong, or do what the mature people do in a conversation and say “I disagree.” At that point, there’s nothing else you can do and no one is obligated to agree with you.
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No, they actually had a seperate event for the Blizzcon version of Sombra’s Demon hunter skin. This was the first and only time that it was stated before the event that the Blizzcon skin would be available through a separate event on a later date. I’m pretty sure they promised exclusivity on all the other Blizzcon skins.
But then again that was OW1 so maybe those rules don’t apply to OW2.
Yes buddy. You earn rewards from gameplay.
Your whole post basically says that skins are not considered gameplay. I’m not sure what you were trying to win there.
Words objectively mean things. It’s called a definition. Please stop trying to pretend like you are right when I can PROVE that you are wrong. Just learn from it and grow.
Yes, I am GOING TO CALL YOU WRONG WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, lol. Like, what is wrong with you. You can’t just disagree with definitions, lol. I mean I guess you can “disagree” that 2+2=4, but…you’d be wrong.
No it doesn’t.
" In game design, a gameplay loop is a repeatable sequence of actions the players engage in that makes up the primary flow of your players experience that keeps the them playing over and over again ."
Earning currency to purchase skins is a form of gameplay loop.
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You earn rewards from the gameplay loop buddy.
English is not your first language is it
It is not linear. It is not separated. It is circular and integrated into the gameplay. It is one with the gameplay. That is why it is called a loop.
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Whatever you say buddy, lol. I’m not even sure that YOU know what you are saying anymore. I certainly don’t.
Whatever weird circles you are trying to draw certainly don’t work towards what I was saying. Skins are not gameplay, ROFL.
I had this thought as well, but the only page that seems to still exist about them doesn’t mention anything about exclusivity
That’s not to say that it wasn’t promised elsewhere, or that there’s not another page somewhere, but I didn’t manage to dig it up.
yup the good ole days are gone…
and with Deathmatch not on as much , i know i wont be missed lol but i wont play as much and probably not gonna buy anything…
and we didnt get a free ow2 league skin…
oh i said free oops so sorry blizzard dont ban me
Reward systems are not separate from gameplay, they are integrated within it. The loop has to be closed to be a loop.
The why is just as important as the how in gameplay.
Buddy, you are just objectively wrong. Just stop, lol.