To be short about this topic I feel like Rein is way too strong with his recent health and damage buff. Dominating the mid ranks and QP making the state of the tank options stale. The reason for his buff was to be made viable in the higher ranks and combat double shield, but that didn’t work out with those changes.
I know they are different heros but Brig got 25 hp more and that was problemtic and got reverted quick. Now Rein got 50 ARMOR and the change is quite more noticable in my opinon.
(I don’t want to ruin tanks here as I know they struggle already, but I simply want more variety in what is being played and not play against Rein Zarya every 2nd game.)
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I’d revert all Reinhardt changes since pre-shield nerf. And also I’d revert Lucio’s speed nerfs. That would make him viable and balanced
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The only problem is 50% move penalty with barrier up would be pretty punishing compared to other characters in current state of the game, that maybe could justify Steadfast 50%, but maybe.
People despise brig so obviously its gonna be taken away from her.
Rein? noone cares for him and i still am curious on how people can not see that rein is broken right now. either way hes not being nerfed until january probably
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I’m not against, makes no difference to me at all. The buffs only mean Rein gets his ult faster (if he can reach the enemy), but his ult is useless.
Revert the recent buffs and instead revert the shatter nerf & steadfast nerfs imo.
Rein is not even remotely close to broken. He’s simply not good enough.
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not good enough? Please.
I literally damage boosted my reinhardt and he wiped out the entire enemy team and never died.
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I’m surprised but not surprised at the same time.
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It’s more likely Blizz nerf him increasing his ult cost than reverting shatter I guess.
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That would be a very typical move by now.
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That would actually be a nerf to rien considering that most pro players go out of their way to ignore the shield as a whole, in favor off getting early back line picks.
Meaning that he would just be a punishable slow target. thats only good for getting a team into a flank and not much else.
I play a lot of Rein (masters) and I don’t think he needed to health and damage buffs at the same time. I’d say revert the damage buff. The extra survivability feels about right, though.
The reason for his buff was because otherwise mid and low ranks wouldn’t have enough barrier tanks, because of priority pass. And that isn’t going away.
If anything, devs would be better off lowering the selfdefences on Orisa/Sigma. Increasing their barriers to “Reinhardt Tier”. And maybe giving them a little extra firepower or mobility.
As for Rein, maybe lower his barriered movement speed a bit to the point Orisa and Sigma are better than Rein on some maps.
Revert the damage, keep the health. And buff the living daylights out of Lucio.
That’s because Brig has 15 HP/s, which is nigh constant in higher ranks, and that means she has a forkton of effective HP.
That’s how you get high durability Deathball comps.
I’d rather they remove the meta viability of DoubleBarrier than recreate a near equivalent to GOATs.
I know, that’s an improvement.
We all know what they should do but looking at past changes, Blizz seems pretty adamant on the “shields bad hur dur” idea so I’ll take a speed meta over whatever it is we got now.
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I don’t get that. How is there any relationship between the balence of the game and a stretegy to reduce q time? How are the non Rein barriers non viable in lower ranks?
Just cause he is a tank doesn’t mean he does not get heal?! He most certainly has even more hps than a Brig on him making it even more effective HP.
I think with the Brig changes they are starting to get the idea that the problem is at close range, not medium range.
Brig is a different hero entirely, her effective HP was a lot more meaningful. She’s quite powerful as is and didn’t need the buff at all.
Yeah I agree I don’t think Brig needed that 25 hp, but I don’t get why Rein needs 50 armor.
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