Can we please come back and talk about Brigitte?

  1. She’s a great support. Basically in line with ALL the other supports. She gets gold healing all the time. And being able to heal a 1hp teamamte to 100% instantly is kind of insane.
  2. Even if she did a whopping 1 damage per minute and shook her targets around and stunned them frequently, and had the armor and shield that she has now, she’d still be broken af. Please stop talking about her damage, it’s irrelevant.

It’s not that easy for Zen/Ana/Mercy/Lucio to kill a pharah. give it a try. Pharah is much more likely to 2shot them before they even hit their second shot on her. And Brig can kill pharah too, with whip shot like you said. I see it all the time.

Let me see…this week overall healing in overbuff.
Yup she only wins Lucio in Grandmaster and is worst in average.

Pickrates are no indication of balance.

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So would all that complaining be moot if she were placed in the offense category? :smirk:

Clearly you didn’t read anything in here. Thanks for stopping by tho.
No. She would still be broken.

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She’s “way too strong for the support category” is what he said.

I knew I should have stopped reading after insane damage but than I saw this and I just knew, that everything you’re spouting is exaggerated you are comparing 16 hps to 60 hps I guess lucio is like a mercy pocket for the entire team and nothing ever dies!!! I’m getting tired of these nerf brigitte posts that bring up the same exact exaggerated arguments full of falsehoods! I’m tired of it I wish I could just filter any thread about brigitte out of stuff I can see! (rant mode over)

I think he meant that during her ult, her giving people 30 armor per second is equivalent to 60 healing per second. Mercy also heals single targets at 60 healing per second.

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no not ult at all he specifically said her passive heals so much its like a mercy is pocketing her they even say later on they are fine with rally so they most definitely are not talking about with ult (yes I finished reading through this to see if your right and that a little bit of faith could be restored but it was not restored)

Lol yea but maybe that’s what he meant to say. But brigitte is so broken and he was so angry about it that he said it was the passive. I totaly get that. She’s a nightmare

Brigitte is an off-healer. She can only heal every 5 seconds unless in melee range and even then doesn’t heal a lot. If she’s getting gold healing then that’s because the other healers are bad. Even with off-healers, her healing is the weakest. Zen can trans and beat Brig in healing. Lucio can amp it up. Both not needing to get into melee range to provide more healing. With main healers being Moira, Ana, and Mercy. They all heal more then Brigitte and provide more utility.

Her damage is literally one of the weakest, it’s not irrelevant. Especially because Zen and Lucio, the other off-healers have the ability to do more damage then her and don’t have to get into melee range to do damage.

This is with every character. This is how the game is played. As any character there is choices that need to be made. If I’m a Mercy getting focused by a Tracer, I’ll switch to Moira who has a easier way to deal with her. If I’m playing Widow and getting focused by the Winston, I’ll switch because I’m not able to get the picks for my team.

If Junkrat is right in her face then that’s his fault because he’s a ranged character. Why would he be in her face enough to get stunned?

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she have less use than zenyatta. Can’t nerf her before zen

This is odd because this ability is one of the primary reasons that I hate her so much. It allows players to make absolutely stupid decisions and not get punished. It almost encourages bad decision making.

Here’s just one example of this monstrosity in action:

But are they supports though? I feel like a support class shouldn’t have that ability to cancel ultimates, the most important ability for every character. Also remember this is my opinion, no need for any sass or rudeness (atleast thats how I’m reading it so if its not intended to seem that way then my apologies) Also she doesn’t need that much help with some beefy characters, like I mentioned the tanks: Hog, Dva and Winston. However characters like Orisa, Pharah, Junkrat i can understand her needing some help for. Everything thing else though is a good argument, divers and flanks can be an issue, and we don’t have too many people to counter that, but like I’ve said, it doesn’t feel like someone in the support category should have that job of dealing with flankers, because it can distract them from their main job, which is healing.

THANK YOU: as a console player who mained Zen during the doomfist release ('member that) as well as someone who loves moira, let me just say that all of the ideas you’ve had to fix her are amazing

and also kinda gonna say this: with zen, he’s high-Risk, High-Reward, for Moira, i’d say medium-risk, medium-reward but Baguette was by far the worst addition by far and 40 dmg per swing: (DPS Mains prepare to cry) in 5 swings she can essentially kill almost all of the base characters excluding: Reaper, Mei, and Bastion, and all of the tanks

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Hog can heal after the combo and Dva can attack from a far and can barrage Brig with missles. Winston is the only one that could have a tough time with Brig.

Brig as a whole is a jack of all trades but she is mediocre in everything outside of Shield bash, rally and armor pack which is decent.

I understand, there are a ton of people who wants brigitte nerfed whining, and I know I’m one of them. Her passive doesn’t sound insane, but put into 1v1s and certain battles it certainly can be an issue, but I’m not saying her passive is the main issue here, I’m saying that the fact she can hold her own against so many characters, and has the potential to counter a lot of them is too much for a support. Her passive is just another addition to what makes her able to do those. The thing that makes her passive more challenging than Lucio’s heal is because it’s always there. When in battle with a Lucio, they’ll switch between Speed and Healing to keep themselves mobile, and alive, but when using the speed, his team isn’t getting healing, while with Brigitte, when she’s in a fight, she can defend herself AND heal at the same time with her Passive, healing herself and allies. Lucio’s rely on that speed to deal damage and not get hit because Lucio’s don’t do as much damage as Brigitte. I know Brigitte only does 35 per hit while Lucio does 20 per bullet (making every m1 doing 60, if you hit every projectile) but the fact that Brigitte doesn’t need to aim, and attacks WAY faster than Lucio’s gun, makes her a stronger opponent to deal with. I’m not trying to sound mad, just stating what I think, sorry I put you in a ranting mode, but I TOTALLY understand that this world is full of people who don’t agree with me, so I get it. Thanks for your input, and if my counter sounded wrong or incorrect grammar or SOMETHING, then let me know! Thanks!

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She has 8 meter range. 8. If you can’t keep your distance long enough to deal critical damage you deserve to die.

so if i’m playing Zenyatta and i can’t escape her, attempt to get a health pack, and get whipshotted to death i deserved it?

No-offense bud, but to me that argument is as constructive as a YouTube comment: could you explain what you mean

yes i know that Pharah, doomfist, and Junkrat are decent counters, but her whipshot+ shield bash get Junkrat a lot, Doomfist can’t 1-shot her to help the team, and if you’re too low as Pharah, welp Rip