Please do this i don’t want any of the new jank to ow can keep it.
If possible take sigma too and release ow1 classic.
There is no such thing as never in the age were every old game is getting remaster.
Ow1 at first was supposed to be just 21 Heroes.
Should have stayed that way.
You can clearly see the difference between of heroes like tracer rein genji Lucio zen dva and all the dlc heroes, even more so after ow2.
Let me quote Dumbledore
Just cause it’s happening in your 
it doesn’t mean it is not real.
The biggest problem with Overwatch Classic is when you use the way back machine to go back. Are we talking launch D.Va?. because if so no thanks. Late 2016 D.Va? Yes please! What version of Mercy? Does she still have mass Rez? Before or after Ana?
Even if we all agreed on wanting an Overwatch classic we aren’t all going to agree on what the golden age was exactly.
The ideal state is pre rq overwatch.
And personally I prefer post role queue. So even then we don’t agree.
You are a 5v5 er so you don’t count 
you don’t get ow classic in launcher it will be greyed out.
Rq won’t work ever simply due to tank numbers and certainly not in 2-2-2.
I was won over by 5v5. I was adamantly opposed to it initially. Genuinely I was very angry when I heard it was going to be 5v5. I just changed my mind.
Ideally for me if we had ow classic I’d mix and match. I’d want Ana, Kiriko, Ball, and Ramattra but no other post release heroes with current D.Va, and role queue. I’d go for 6v6 then.
from my experience, every “defense” or “argument” that’s supposed to favor 5v5 is delusional and some form of Anxiety
underrated
then I doubt you played well during 6v6,
does it make more objective if I agree with them?
it’s almost like the ony thing about ults is that the TTK has lowered due to the fact that staying out in the open eventually means yours or someone else’s death,
and if you are using real cover more often, you are shooting less, which means you make less Ult, which sounds like Ults are less used, but there’s less ult charge to get, because you’re busy not trying to die
I wonder why, it’s almost like in 2016 and 2017 there were like 4-5DPS character for every tank? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that wasn’t it
Is more a matter of giving and enabling diverse modes and not actively sabotage it.
Is a free to play game with low attrition to entry, yet they keep add attrition and enforcing folks play what they want. Instead of make the community grow and they cash in on folks enjoying their time in the game. They keep narrowing and hurting any kind of camp they have with low retention.
They do and will do mistakes, but if they at least not sabotage and enable folks to play what they want. Folks would more receptive about it.
Why in qp classic needs to not have auto queue? Doesn’t make any sense. Why not enable under arcade 6v6, 2cp, older events and so on?
Is a free to play game, if more folks play. They pocket more money due the number of spenders would rise. Decrease restrictions on battlepass game modes, enable re-queue and make other modes available also try to throw new modes in there, get feedback and iterate on.
They keep saying they failed on communication and yet keep doing the same “tone deaf” positions.
I would rather say the issue is not camps fighting but nobody actually wanting the game to improve and enable more folks to come. Having more modes = more folks playing, which will reflect on more money on their pockets and more investment in the game.
Whatever main mode they want it to be, shouldn’t be at expense of anybody’s fun if that fun can bring more folks, more visibility and eventually more money.
I’ve been playing since launch. I’ve literally played every version of the game there’s been.
No, it doesn’t.
yes it does,
it’s like saying “racism is bad” is subjective because not everyone agrees
Your agreement doesn’t make it objective. It doesn’t. It’s an opinion not a fact.
Naahhh Zenyatta Patience meme was diabolical meme 
But tldr: no
End tldr.
the problem is 5v5ers aren’t innocent in how they handle these arguments either.
They CAN and also HAVE been dismissive and condescending when a significant portion of these OW2 players didn’t even touch the original game (let alone at a high level) during OW1 6v6 role queue OR 6v6 open queue.
Easiest example of the counter echo chamber is rose tinted glasses.
Many of us haven’t enjoyed OW2 since the drop.
More over the main problem has ALWAYS been the devs and how they’ve handled the game in and out of matches.
6v6 Role Queue during Oct 2020 was arguably the best state the game had ever been in especially regarding the issues that arose in OW1 that were not necessarily ALL exclusive to 6v6.
There was room for improvement and with the right attention it could have improved. But instead they took that attention and decided to invest it into a money grab that they couldnt deliver on.
What did we gain?
Queue times are great at lower ranks but still dogwater in this version of the game once you get above a certain rank which mirrors the issue of 6v6.
It’s not necessarily that the game is good and people are actually loving what they’re playing.
It’s that there isn’t a game in this genre (currently) that can replace the spark that OW gives us.
THAT is what makes it fun, but that isn’t necessarily attached to a format which strains on people who are passionate about the game.
If rose tinted glasses applies to anything it’s THAT spark that the OW Universe and style of gameplay offers.
Paladins is ALSO a great game but there isn’t much that gets you attached to the characters and their stories.
There’s a lack of unique interactions between the heroes as well as QoL things like emotes, highlight intros, engaging backstories to keep players interested.
I’m a year into playing and I still know about as much about my main as when i started the game.
Their skins are not enough to carry that game even for the goofy gooners (their character designs can be a bit on the raunchy side for sure).
So ultimately,
If you want us to stop, you [all] need to stop capping about the game being in a great or better state in 5v5 and meet us somewhere closer to the middle as well.
There’s no problem with liking it but you don’t speak for the whole community so it isn’t a reason for us to stop speaking.
You can’t tell me that the rest of us should find it fun to play into:
Multiple deployables and Immortalities, Brain dead AOE healing, Raid Boss tanks, a necessary DPS passive because of how hard it is to fight into said brain dead AOE healing and immortalities, current Pharah, games devolving to Bastion Mauga + Infinitely Invisible Sombras as counter swaps when your enemy can’t anchor in against said Raid Boss tanks or touch the Widow sitting in the back of sniper maps with just as deadly 1 shot potential, dead voice chat because people are afraid to get banned because “we never have allowed cursing in our community” and more over a lack of meaningful content.
Additionally the devs constantly move the goal posts on where they want to take the game and double down on issues that plenty have spoken up on.
Like keeping Kiriko’s design as well as Baps but only slightly changing numbers to act like its helping the fundamental flaws.
Im just scratching the surface with these things and we dont have to address that last statement… but essentially the answer is no.
We will not let you talk us down from arguing just because people like turning on the stove but cant handle the heat.
Shouldn’t have stepped in the kitchen in the first place.
I also personally hate when people wanna put a pause like its gunna change anything.
Jerks will be jerks no matter what.
We can’t hope that stopping this discussion will make them not be jerks.
[Edit] I wrote too much and I need to hop on Paladins anyway, so excuse any typos. I noticed a few but it should be easy enough to infer even on the ones I already edited.
Less camping at chokepoints.
More space and faster paced gameplay with more action.
Fewer ultimates where gun skill is rewarded over hit q to win.
Annoying “can we get a main tank!?” everytime you queue tank is gone where you don’t have to run a shield or by default lose the game.
Less shooting at shields just to get a chance to shoot a player.
Cheesey spam the choke tactics are no longer rewarded. Teams are now more spread out so you cant just randomly fire into the chokepoint getting mad value for free with no skill involved.
Shooting at tanks over squishies is not longer the main tactic in the game because you don’t gain as much ult charge from it.
Supports are no longer healbots that gotta stand there trying to keep two tanks alive all game and they actually have to defend themselves instead of sitting in the pocket never having to worry about pressure.
DPS in 5v5 are forced to git gud and use cover and proper positioning to stay alive rather than just sit behind a shield all game.
Overall the game takes more skill.
The people who dont like it hate how now you actually have to strafe and use cover to win a gun fight like any other FPS rather than just spam the enemy tanks behind a shield to farm ult charge and hit q to win the game.
That cheese got yeeted out the game and now people are mad cause they don’t know how to win gun fights cause they came over to Overwatch originally wanting a FPS to hold their hand.
So one or two tanks on either side of team, interesting. If that can be balanced, that might still help with queue time just as much as 5v5 while potentially making tank a bit more fun.
People are mad because they dumbed the game down to chase the casual train. Which is ironic because even casuals are giving them crap now.
An OW fight used to take at least some manner of proper tactics. Now it’s a mosh pit simulator with guns.
And as a support main idk what game YOUR playing but I can tell you right now I’m still forced to healbot a lot if I get a tank who gets hard countered and won’t swap. But hey, 5v5 fixed the tank issues eh?
What is it then? If I have never seen a person who prefers 5v5 attacking someone who likes 6v6, what is it then? Tell me.
What is my experience? You are too dense to comprehend the idea that facts can be different for people. If I have never seen something, then it is a fact that I have never seen something… why is that so hard for you?
No it doesn’t 
You’re so triggered by the fact I have a different experience on the forums to you, and I even stated in my OP “from my experience”. Until I have seen otherwise, my experience is a fact to me.
Because they didn’t offer variety, they dumbed down regular “pew-pew” without offering anything for casual players, who are not fans of it.
Right. ‘Oh they did it to bring in the casuals’.
You mean the Warzone crowd that wants to run around like Rambo with little to no thought in regards to tactics? We want to encourage a play style that takes LESS critical thinking?
Gee whiz, whoever would’ve thought that something like that would’ve dragged down match quality over time?
correct,
the fact that OW is Free to play would contribute much higher influence 5v5 could ever dream of
well said