Really? Because most of the forum feedback I’ve seen has been negative
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I appreciate that they tried it though. Even if I think it’s an awful mess and nobody other than Rein and Zarya are played I want them to feel like it’s okay to experiment and to let us in on what they’re doing. That being said I’m not a fan of this particular experiment.
I understand what Jeff was thinking, about making “more of the most popular flavor of ice cream available”, but the thing is that this isn’t like buying an ice cream cone. You buy an icecream cone and generally you’re the only one that eats it. It’s more akin to say, 6 people having to share a sundae. We are all, in essence, building a sundae together and it has to be something we can all share and enjoy.
Yep, that was at the beginning when the negative comments came on without trying it first. Since then, more and more are liking it, and why wouldn’t Blizzard be interested in shorter queue times?
His answer was not a definite.
I see the opposite. Plus the fact that people are actually playing the mode, and in game people say they like it.
everyone knows, that usually the negative are the loudest, and people are usually unwilling to change. same thing happened with 2-2-2, but it still was implemented.
Point is, in game, people are really enjoying it, and love the short queue times. Plus feel its a better mode.
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I think u just proved some points…the threat of potentially having another tank for the enemy team is better than knowing there would only be one.
I guess 2-2-2 is also a culprit for this staleness.
Odd that counters what Jeff said that most of the 132 feedback was negative …
And he has much more data.
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Dude, you stated something. With no back-up whatsoever. People present you with back-up for the extact opposite (what Jeff said and my poll), and you ignore it. Yes, the negative will often be somewhat louder, did you look at the ratio though?
Let me type it out for you:
neutral: 12%
in favour: 22%
against: 66%
174 votes
From the polls that I made for 2-2-2 and from a lot of others I’ve seen, ~70% wanted 2-2-2. Also, Blizzard said that the feedback was positive, for 1-3-2 they say it is negative.
You can’t be serious. And you tell me about common sense?
1 You have a small sample size if you just ask people in your game.
2 You have an incredible biased sample group, of course the people who don’t like the mode will have stopped playing after a few rounds. Of course most who keep playing will like it.
3 That still gives you no reason to ignore sources presented to you. Just because they do not represent what you want them to.
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I actually enjoy being an op killing machine that is 321 rein. I am really enjoying it eveb as Winston
this is nothing to blizzard.
once u buy game thats basicalyl all $ they are making off most of the players.
majority likely do not buy lootcrates.
ppl will still watch their e-sport and thats where majority of OW’s profit is. (at least more than halffor sure)
What you are not getting is, that the “negative” feedback was after less that one day it was out, so therefore it was already the vocal ones that would hate it from the start without even trying it.
As time goes on, more and more people actually like it.
What he stated was not an absolute answer. In the spirit of queue times, and the fact that more are okay with it, there is a good chance it will be implemented.
That, my friend, is common sense.
Why would Blizzard not want shorter queue times, within a mode that a more buffed tank pretty much can do what two tanks did anyway??
I still see plenty of negative feedback now, we’ll see how it ends up.
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Yeah but democracy is democracy. I don’t say you should completely forget about the other, lets say 49%. You somehow need to find a way to please everyone, but this will be kinda hard.
It would be cool if they would communicate the dates which they collect right now with us. Like how well certain heros performed, more leavers, etc.
Sadly we can’t give feedback after the round ended, maybe like from 1 to 10.
But if you make a poll, a vote or sth like that - the majority counts.
I do NOT say that you should forget about the other people!
And even when 49% disagree with the maybe incoming 3-2-1 change, not everyone would leave. And maybe it would bring some players back who didn’t like 2-2-2?
Issa hard topic 
You must not trust to people around forum saying something like “majority like it” “majority dislike it”, most of them confuse their opinion with the reality.
The only actual partial information we have is for developer actually seems more people dislike 1-3-2.
implying i wont do this anyways in 2-2-2 kek
there are definitely more dps leavers as ive seen so far, they get into a match, underpreform, die to a enemy dps/tank no one is willing to help with and leaves. uncontested enemy widows will do that 
Tanks get radical changes for a short term mode - wonders why dps queue time is low.
Because people finally have a reason to pick tank - and that won’t even last, had this mode gone through, over a short amount of time it will become high dps queue times again and back to low tank queue times.
It’s silly to think that would last >.>
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The majority may like this change due to the majority of players are DPS players (due to more dps heroes) there is no denying some of the tank players played tank with the intention of playing “off tank” to dps. There is no denying that this change to reduce que time for dps where needed.
That said. As a tank player who wanna play tank heroes I currently feel that i cant. Being the only one looking over 3 dps and 2 healers, keeping them safe at all times is not doable. As “off tank” you can support your flankers, as “main tank” (shield tank) you can take care of the non flankers and support.
Right now we need to trust flanker to not be bad and think for themelf. This part is fine this is how it should be i would say. But the question then becomes. Who takes care of me? As a “main” hammond when playing tank, i relay on my other tank. When im about to lose all my shield and get low i want a shoulder to lean on. Anything from rolling into an oria/sigma/rein barriar. Behind road, winston, Dva and zaryas back/bubble/shield. I can smack straight down into the enemy team, get full charge, not get frozen, traped, stunned or CC:ed in any way, and just melt away. Two healers and soldier cant keep any tank alive thur that.
While all of this is happening the there might be a flanker just killing the support. A sniper un contested. After playing experimental tank i got tired of that. It’s not fun to be a tank in a 1-3-2 world. I cant speak for everyone but most people that have answerd in game when asked, say that they think it’s boring/bad, that they want to play tank but doing it alone is not fun at all.
We dont need crazy changes (thinking of road and zarya experimental changes) we need to make make the game playabel for everyone. The que time will go down, but at the cost of a large portion of the tank players. These players will either, stop playing, switch over to dps (increasing the que time again) go over to “healer” (increasing the healer que time).
As i said earlier, this is a needed change, but i think this is only half the solution. Going into a world of 2-3-2 is something that can now be tested on a larger scale due to this new experimental card. It would requirer alot of work to get it to work im sure, but the question is, after 1-2 months with 1-3-2 in live ranked. Will the que time acutally go down with the increase of dps players and decrease of tank players? Im pretty sure this change wont have the effect it’s aimd to have and only work as a short time solution for the next month or two.
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The response to the launch of 222 and the feed back it received was this: “The primary goal of this feature has always been to increase the quality of Overwatch matches, and it’s been great to see so much positive feedback about match quality in a role queue world.” - Scott Mercer
When you compare that to Jeff’s response to the launch of 1-3-2 it’s pretty obvious which one went over smoother with the community.
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