Thanks! I think it is the post I am most proud of.
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I mean to be fair if you are below Diamond you probably are overpicking McCree for the value you are capable of getting on him. It is like being a Gold Widow. If you could get value on Widow, you would not be in Gold.
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Winrate means nothing
If a hero is actually a mustpick then everyone would play them
in that scenario it would stable at 50% or wherever it is
why?
because 1 of these heroes wins and loses every game
pickrate is more accurate as that can change and a hero having a very high pickrate is a sign of them being too powerful (though there are exceptions to this example being genji: he isā¦ok though his pickrate is so high because people find him allot of fun to play
Typically mirror matches would be excluded from winrate calculations though.
This argument falls apart when you realise that even if this were the case youād still have people who would refuse to play said hero, and thus their win rate would be greater than 50%
Gold Widows get value with Widow in Goldā¦ or they wouldnāt be in Gold maining Widow.
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His winrate being negative kinda shows heās not as strong as people think. If he has a lower winrate because of the mirror matchups youād expect a super op hero to have a really high winrate vs non mirror matchups which would bring it over 50%. Yet heās still below 50%. This shows he still loses games vs teams without a McCree.
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What rank are you getting these stats from?
In mid to low ranks if one team has a McClick and loses it will throw off the over all stats.
I feel like itās one small aspect that should be considered.
Yet the mccree mains treat his WR like its a freakin holy text. Doesnāt matter that heās obliterating anyone in his way, if his winrate is low, heās obviously one of the worst characters in the game apparently smh. And God forbid you call them on it. inb4 they all start screaming about how bad his ult is even though it absolutely dumps on barrage and visor etc.
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His other stats are pretty sus too. What is overperforming besides his pickrate?
Edit - For anyone who cares, his response (that he posted jn a different thread) was that he doesnāt care about any stats and is just tired of him being in every match.
McCree haters just validate me so much that it is ridiculous. My ego is bigger than his pickrate.
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Actually not too long ago several streamers had been shown the data for hero pick rates and win rates. A few compared them to Overbuff, and outside a few outliers, the numbers were apparently similar. Enough so that Overbuff, while by no means perfect, provides sufficient data to gauge game performance.
Now Over uff has its moments. Itās daily rates can be a mess until corrected. But the metadata it provides is sufficient for common use.
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Soon you might get out of gold playing him.
The issue with mccree wasnt the buffs he received, its that his counters started being put down more and more, so he started gaining power even without being buffed, even with his buff he was decent for some time, just now rather recently he started gaining loads of power
Yeah, I was a diamond McCree before all the buffs and meta shift, but I havenāt really felt like playing him too much. Everytime I tried, I climbed a few hundred SR, but then my urge to Doomfist just comes back. After so long playing McCree, I think I just need a break. Especially once I figured out Zen was basically the same thing. Queuing for him just got less appealing. Why wait 10 minutes to play the hitscan version of Zen with a stun that I suck at landing anyways? Makes no sense for me personally.
Meanwhile rein on nearly 13% pickrate and 55% winrate.
Oh no did I just kill your argument?
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They are going to need to recycle that emoji when they figure it out.
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Deadeye -> 3.20 kills average per game
Visor -> 4.40
Barrage ->5.27
Come again?
Deadeye is the third worst killrate ult from dps role, only surpassed by meteor strike and pulse bomb, and nearly tied with dragonstrike.
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As you should, itās a great well thought out post, probably one of the best on those forums.
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iāve checked a few weeks ago to write a post.
His E/D ratio and average elims are a bit lower than Tracerās and Asheās, and Echoās and Soldier ones are way more. He also lacks in average elims. Has a lot of solo kills, but not much more than Genji, Soldier and Ashe, and is behind Tracer. Shines in final blows tho. Across those dps heroes heās on a lower side, Tracer, Genji, Soldier and Ashe has a bit higher one.
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Yep.
His biggest benefit is that he doesnāt have hardcounters, so heās very versatile and unless you negate projectile cast with matrix, he can always do something, even if to a lesser degree than other heroes on the same field.