I understand why, but its not a problem anymore really and people would be fine with the meta it was nerfed for coming back at this point compared to what we’ve had the last year
Just stupid, they nerfed D.Va the hardest too during Goats.
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ana was the counter to goats, dvas matrix kept ana from being able to do that
jayne explained that during the peak of the meta when teams were experimenting with hero bans in scrims, dva was picked for the bans more often than brig
“Godlike.”
I ran the numbers. For most heroes, it’s a buff for D.Va, and she definitely needs the extra survivability, but for her counters, it either changes nothing or weakens D.Va.
And when D.Va was banned, they were still playing GOATS. When Brig was banned, they weren’t.
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This^, ever since they nerf her range I myself keep not eating enemies ult despite the fact I can physically see that it went through my DM, this is probably fault of latency/lag connection issues and considering Sigma’s black hole is activated instantly and gives me better results despite it’s range.
No we can have that, this very fragile tank that people got very good at despite being bad in most scenarios is being overused, we NEED to find something to nerf out of her because that’s what our data tells us
Seriously whenever I play DPS she just melts and I am not even that good at DPS.
Because whenever Blizzard sees a character that is used “a lot” they HAVE to nerf them.
I love Dva, but I still haven’t gotten used to the range reduction… I turn to help and it just doesn’t… Im not a great Dva, but holy heck has this change hecked me up.
A good, viable off tank.
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She may be viable, but good ? No.
Least picked off-tank overall (third least picked tank) with a winrate below 50%. Second least picked tank in GM, with one of the worst winrates of the class.
She isn’t good.
Hard to be viable if you’re not good. Also the stats change every week and her winrate is about average in GM. I would only consider her bad in double shield.
You can be viable without being good. Look at Mercy. Look at Orisa/Sigma.
Also, “her winrate is average in GM” ? She’s 9th from bottom. She’s at 52.5% when the average is 54%.
Be nice to get rid of the massive vulnerability during the re-mech animation. You’re already vulnerable during your ult/ejected phase and stunlocking yourself to get out of it is counter-intuitive. Just make her invulnerable when she presses Q to get into meka.
Baby D.Va should have some abilities - nothing powerful - to mitigate the disadvantage of being ejected into a bunker/barrier team. It shouldn’t be good play to just jump off the map (if that’s even possible) to avoid lengthy staggers. A sort of McCree roll/dive (sans reload) and a throwable small explosive (that does something minor, like 50 dmg) to toss over barriers spring to mind.
Do you know what usually happens with heroes who are viable and get buffs? They get compensation nerfs, making it more like a power shift.
What do you think what will happen with Dva if she get a buff in her current state?
You only suggest buffs, and big ones as well, so the compensation nerfs will be most likely be big as well.
Are you willing to risk it?
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Yeah, like Genji and Ashe.
Oh wait, they didn’t get any nerfs.
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To be fair I don’t really understand the Mercy complains. She seems fine to me but I literally never play her so what do I know.
Orisa and Sigma aren’t bad tbh. Rein comps are just too damn good.
Like I said stats change every week after lolhero pool happened. If you click on “this week” you’ll see both her pickrate and winrate are average in GM. Granted her pickrate is lower than most tanks but it’s not far behind the other dive tanks and her winrate is actually higher than theirs, especially Winston’s.
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I did say “usually”.
They didn’t even compensation buffed Sombra when they nerfed her twice in the same patch when she was still an F-tier hero with the lowest winrate.
That’s due to blatant dev bias. Long ago they admitted they didn’t want to even make her.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if she was mostly added to boost sales as a fanservice character.
I mean, why else is she practically a standalone hero in the lore with not ties to the main lore and other heroes, and has her event skins been pretty fanservice-y?
I was actually talking about Sombra in that post, but I think it applies to D.Va too. They seem to hate both of them, but manage to actually make D.Va actually viable on occasion, even if they clearly did not intend to do so. DM-bot is the most egregious example. Seeing how they handled that whole situation still frustrates me.
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She hardly competes with actual main supports now, at least in tiers where supports are competent. And she doesn’t have much utility to justify her being picked as an off-support, unless you want to pocket someone.
Rein is probably the only “good” tank. Everyone else just…isn’t “good.”
Even Zarya is only “good” when Rein exists.
Which is why I look at monthly stats. Evens out the bans, especially in non-DPS.
I don’t think there’s any “usually” when it comes to buffs and nerfs.
They just play favorites. Some heroes will get nerfed the moment they go near the top, like D.Va, Mercy, Symmetra. Others have plot armor, or get nerfed a lot later, like Ana or Reinhardt or some DPS. And there’s the “stay in the trash” group, with Bastion and the likes.
D.Va during GOATS was only picked a lot in OWL, everywhere else she was average to below average. They didn’t compensate her nerfs. And when competition arrived, she became a no pick hero, like Bastion.
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Yeah, I think they figured that out when they buffed her boosters to 3 seconds. Which, is probably the reason why they nerfed them to 4.
Honestly, it’s like upping reapers life steal to 50%. Yes, it’s a buff. But, it does nothing to address the actual problems with the hero design.
Or, you could give Bastion a buff, like 750 DPS. It is indeed a buff, But it wouldn’t fix the fundamental issues with the hero.
There is a difference between a good buff and a bad buff. One is something the hero needs, the other is a Band-Aid fix.
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