saying mercy and lucios primary are ranged damage when their damage is laughable at best doesn’t doesn’t faithfully describe ranged damage or abilites.
you cant call cooldowns easy to bait if they are back faster than you realize. saying her bash and whipshot are easy to bait is like saying tracers blinks are easy to bait, or mercy’s GA is easy to bait.
He can kill her in less than a second with just bodyshots and helix rocket. If Soldier 76 initiates with the positional advantage, as he should because of his better mobility, she’s not going to have time to get to cover.
This is intentional, Brigitte is her only counter, it has to be that way, otherwise we go back to Tracer destroying everyone.
Her shield has very low HP, it can be destroyed rather easy. It’s one of those situations in which you have to pay attention to her and if you don’t you will pay the price, it doesn’t make her OP.
Soldier is one of the worst DPS heroes right now tbh.
Brigitte’s healing is probably the worst out of the supports, that is just a fact, and it’s ok, she is not supposed to be e great healer as she is a hybrid.
It’s actually Zen and Mercy.
Why don’t they just erase her, would that make you happy?
You can’t make this argument when Brigitte merely HAVING a shield was enough for you before. Their damage may be bad, but it’s still long distance damage, which Brigitte does not have.
How are they back faster than you realize? Game sense is all about being able to do cooldown math in your head.
Also, comparing Brigitte’s 6 second Bash cooldown to Tracer’s 3 instant Blinks before she even has a cooldown and Mercy’s 2-second GA is seriously reaching. Six seconds is a longass time in this game.
considering ones a stun and the others are short movements, yes I can compare them, because the thing is it does more. lets compare it to other stuns? starts to look like a really short cooldown then
then you cant bring up optimal situations, and also claim that others have range damage, when mercy doesn’t have her pistol out in optimal situations, and lucio is focused on getting to the right place to help the right person, and moving people quickly in optimal situations. Their damage is ranged, but its not supposed to be being used. Brigs damage is supposed to be being used.
LOL. In what world does Brigitte provide ‘team sustain constantly’? She stops healing if she can’t get into melee range to activate it again. Lucio just emits heals by standing there.
You listed each of Brigitte’s abilities as if she always has access to all of them at the exact same time, no matter the range or the threat. If we’re considering limitations and availability, then we do it across the board.
This is blantantly moving the goalposts.
You said it’s back “faster than you realize”, which it isn’t on a 6 second cooldown.
The only characters that are not capable of being a counter to brigitte is reaper and winston. Every other tank has a way of demolishing her or her shield or ignoring her cc, every single other dps including the ones she meant to counter can play from much farther range destroying her shield then destroying her.
Brigittes only op to bad players or people unaware of her presence. Brigittes only good qualities are heal pack, bash, and rally. Rally being the strongest, bash is very limited much like hogs hook but even less since it puts her out of position and shes a lot squishier than hog, plus 3x less range. Heal pack is only good if you consider 150 hp/75 armor on a travel time ability with 5s cd.
no it isn’t, its drawing comparisons. We used the example of “compared to other movement abilities its long” so i compared it to other stuns, because you know its a stun, and showed its short.
its shorter cd because brigittes is nowhere near as powerful as other stuns in the game in terms of killing power. She can kill only 2 characters with the combo, while someone like mccree can kill every single 250 hp character with two lmbs after stun or fth. Its better hitting reliably, but not better in kill power.
Brigitte is not blatantly overpowered, she is losing pickrate more and more, shes barely picked in owl for someone deemed ‘op’. diamond and above people know how to fight her, how to punish her, etc. A single zenyatta or reinhardt can make a brigs day utter living
Brigs stun is the best stun in terms of reliability. I already said this, but it is nowhere near as good as mccrees kill power as well as kill potential.
Don’t forget shes the only person that can go into 3rd person and not give anything away, she can wait around corners easily unlike say rienhardt, who has a GIANT GOD DANM SHIELD.
then dont compare a healers stun to a damages stun if you dont want damage from a dps compared to her. She is an off support, or off tank support. She is basically a dps that can heal.
In the second quote, I am specifically stating what YOU did: bring up an optimal scenario.
So yes.
No we didn’t. Nothing about movement speed was said until that last post of yours. We were talking about baiting out abilities.
The comparison also makes no sense because both Blink and GA are FAR more powerful abilities than Bash is. Don’t get me wrong…Bash is good, but GA and Blink are two of the best moves in the game with near instantaneous cooldown speeds.