Brig can't stun through shields but Doom can?

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In order to answer this we have to figure out how barriers work exactly.

  1. How are objects stopped? Do they have to be a certain speed?
    If so then it can be stated that Brig can’t because her bash is faster than Doom with his punch and that anything that goes through them are slower than that benchmark speed but this wouldn’t make much sense as Rein can charge through and Genji can dash through barriers

  2. How does it stop non projectiles? Beams/bombs don’t have speed so what if it depended on what material the object is made out of?
    This would be cool but not in scope with any tech we currently have

I think we just don’t have enough info on barriers to know exactly why but I think it has mostly to do with the fist not being a barrier itself and being attached to a person

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Well, that’s exactly the point. The stunn was made to peel off flankers and divers not to break the tank frontier.

That was what caused the big nerf calls for brig when she apeared and the cry of reins. Well, and it seems it was indeed too much.

Well just watch how less doom was played before we got this siheld meta. The fact that he can ignore the shields and that we have a shield meta made him viable.

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but in this game any barrier can go through barrier <_<

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very well, then give her a different ULT

consistency must be first, then balance second

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Everyone here comparing brig and doom but ignores that Genji can dash through barriers?

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Raises hand

Pointed that out.

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Genji dashes through everything… he doesn’t run into people and trigger an impact effect. It’s not really comparable.

Rein charge would arguably make sense as part of the discussion, but eh, he keeps going after he hits someone anyway.

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I know this is a crazy idea, but hear me out.

Why not have BOTH!?

Oh, wait, that’s not the Blizzard way…

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they do that I’ll permanently uninstall, Rat should have never had his removed.

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balance is the last concern imho

GOATs was a little crazy…

but if you have 10 must picks in OWL and 5 trash picks in silver and below…I don’t care

he’s got a peg leg for crying out loud! he loves taking grenades to the dome

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ever heard of environmental story telling that peg is kinda a way of saying don’t shoot at close quarters or you’ll lose the other 2 limbs.

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all self damage should be removed. there, I said it

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Not in attack, though. I know it’s a melee attack, but no barrier offensively disrupts another. Winston can attack through barriers, Rein can also, but imagine if Orisa had a stun attached to her barrier during it’s deployment. …Actually that sounds rad…

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I don’t know how I feel about Pharah attaching themselves to my face and pressing Q.

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Why not? Reaper does it all the time.

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Reaper doesn’t fly. Comparing apples and oranges in a single context doesn’t get us anywhere.

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changer her Ult…

nevertheless, and actually that’s an apples to apples comparison, because reaper can do better than fly, he can go the ethereal plane and sneak up on you… that’s better than flying

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So no Zarya or Soldier rocket jumps?

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they can still propel themselves, but just not take damage

self damage is such an archaic mechanic from a bygone era

blizz was brave enough to not let you shoot your allies, I say take away self damage, it wouldn’t change the game at all

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You’re saying it’s apples to apples but further highlighting how different they are.

Death blossom has an 8m range, so of course you can’t make it hurt the user(plus it’s not even an explosion!)

Barrage can work at longer ranges, and it becomes increasingly deadly at closer ranges where more rockets/splash connect plus there’s less travel time so less time for the target to react. You bet it should have self-damage.