[breaking news! must read!] mercy has a stunning 53.39% in grand master!

It doesn’t; though the sample size is more than likely still large enough to be a somewhat-decent ballpark.

Youre comparing a hero like bastion with 0.06% pick rate to a hero with 3% very big difference there. Also its 56.5% mercy win rate this week, let me highlight it for you THIS WEEK, the same time period I said in the post you replied to.

That’s still ridiculous. So private profiles makes data skewed. At least data available to the public.

Yea, but they can’t be the hero’s only source of viability either, otherwise hero is unviable and bad in 90% of the situations. Most people do not play competitive or at GM level specifically to use pharmercy against GOATS. Nor do people play mercy to be forever pharah sidekick heroines.

That is objectively not what is happening though. It’s numerically impossible.

Also I have absolutely no idea where you’re seeing 52% in GM, as I am still seeing near 57%.

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Private profiles only would really skew the data if a certain type of player would hide their profile more often. Im sure it is a bit less accurate than it used to be, but the numbers barely changed at all when private profiles became a thing.

Then please get off the martyr high horse and help bastion instead.

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Can’t say she is, can’t say she isn’t but I personally had quite a discussion on these forums a while ago about her numbers and people who felt like she was better pre-rework (you know who I’m talking about) used her low numbers to fight my claims, I think that using the same sources to prove that she was in fact being affected by kneejerk reactions and that her numbers were in fact stabilizing, isn’t all that bad, don’t you think?

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Because she just got a ~20% healing nerf and now she is miraculously better.

She literally just got a ~20% healing nerf. And yet apparently she is good.

No really, stop spamming these threads. :japanese_goblin:

One thing is clear, Ana is overshadowing Mercy in pickrates and winrates, Not only Ana can heal very very well but do damage. 70 dmg was truly a mistake because of 70+70+60 meta.

I’m sorry, where did I say that Mercy is “only good because of new Pharah?” I don’t believe I said that.

The point to be made is that despite how well Pharah does, Mercy is still on average, the worst support by winrate.

GM stats are also an extremely small sample size, with some of the most dramatic fluctuations, compared to lower elos. I don’t think we shoulsd look at weekly stats of the top 1% of players as a representative of Mercy’s state as a whole. :blush:


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Here’s the real :tea: this post is useless as those statistic sites are inaccurate

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Basically we just had a patch, everyone calm down, mercy was not buffed and she remains a trash pick. Pharah being buffed =/= mercy getting magically good.

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You still messed up the maths though.
As Tatzecom pointed out, 'So Mercy does 153% of Zenyattas healing. For every 1HP Zen heals, Mercy heals 1.53HP. That’s what you are calculating.

What you are stating is, that for every 1HP Zen heals, Mercy heals 2.53. Becaushe she heals 153% MORE than Zen.

You either have to adjust every sentence you made and go from “does x more than Mercy” to “does x of Mercy” but thats long and inconvenient.’

You need to change your post, it’s very misleading.

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But seriously, this is getting shoved down everyone’s throats, and there are people who don’t like that at all. Shut up about “the M-word”.

It makes sense, she is sitting at a 3% pick rate, middle of the pack. Before when she was a must pick she was nearly always on both teams. If she is on both every single game her win rate would be 50%. Makes perfect sense that her win rate can now be higher or lower than the low 50s it used to be since she isnt always being picked.

Not saying mercy is better than she was before, just that she isnt some useless troll pick.

“Context matters” is exactly right. Sub-50% overall is indicative of her being underpowered, because overall winrate is where winrate is zero-sum (or more appropriately, “fifty-sum”) and always averages to 50%. Anyone below that is underperforming.

In GM, you can only look at relative winrate compared to the other heroes because due to having no tier above them but plenty of masters below to play against, they all end up with winrates over 50% anyway. She’s still significantly underperforming, not to mention barely ever picked by GMs, which on its own says a lot.

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So let me get this straight, you’re stating that “this week” is too granular and using an even more granular data set to prove your point?

The extra kicker is that October 14th is barely halfway done as well,so.

Mercy has triple Pharah’s pickrate, so saying her winrate is only because she gets carried by Pharah is sloppy analysis. I’ve pointed this out no less than 3 times in this thread now.

“Mercy has had a sub 50% winrate at all ranks for more than a month now and with very sufficient data source pointing that 50hps hurt her badly, she’s needs buffs!”

“Mercy’s winrate fluctuated for 2 days without changes made to her because of a patch + pharah buffs, WOW SHE IS SO GOOD U WERE ALL WRONG!”

2 days worth of data is nothing more than a fluke compared to data collected form all ranks for longer than a month. There is no need to decide what data is actually accurate.

And your point is that mercy having 2 days of succesful plays but with a downward trend is somehow indicative of a viable hero, despite no changes made to her? Not a very effective argument either.

After a month of upwards trend across all ranks, then we’ll see. But so far doesn’t look like much.

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I changed my mind, I dont feel like playing word games with you.

You agreed with this statement, implying that mercy isnt actually good on her own, but doing well atm due to pharah. But you didnt explicitly say it and want to play word games. Ill pass. Also ana is the worst support by win rate looking at all ranks, since you dont want to look at the top.