Blizzards refusal to nerf supports is BAFFLING

well, we know at least one member of the balance team is gm, but even then just being gm means little.
the issue for the balance team is that they know what the intended “philosophy” and “goals” are, so they view balance differently from us.
but overall there is the feeling most of them don’t even understand the game. I knew the tanks were not in good hands when they kept calling hammond an off tank and sigma a main tank back in the day. It’s like they, like people who don’t understand the game, think that shield = main, when that’s not what it was.

i mean, sigma and double shield were a thing because sigma was an off tank with a rein shield. All they had to do was nerf THAT, but they were stupid and constantly went after orisa

also this is personal but they killed orisa for me, she was my main and her new kit just doesn’t gel with me. And i know the old kit could’ve worked because Ramattra has a similar flow and would be my new main if he wasn’t locked

this actually probably means nothing because if its just some random person their opinions probably arnt taken all that seriously

and that assumes they are GM on PC playing difficult heroes, otherwise they’d probably have the same opinions as the normie plats.

knowing how many ppl at blizzard play games on console, id bet the gm player is probably console gm lol

but its just upsetting how bad they are at this.

youd think after 7 years someone in the overwatch team would of atleast hired a consultant or something

Why the hell is OP’s post flagged? he just stated his opinion on the state of balancing right now…

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Forumers are made of 85% support mains with 72.83% of them being mercy mains what did you expect?
:smiling_face:

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Been here since OW1 launch well on another account before I wanted a cooler name linked to my Xbox account and it was never this toxic as it is now. Kind of sad.

Nerf supports in what wau though; you nerf healing, then what is the point of supports? People die despite focused healing even now.

Supports are not there to bottom for the enemy DPS. They are heroes too. They should be able to do their job and stand their own ground.

A DPS can still DPS, but I feel we’re confusing what they are meant to do with the assumption that they should be able to Deathmatch 1v9.

support mains btw…

ohhhhh okay that makes a looot more sense lol

my only experience with parrying has been like… with blocking and whatnot. idk what that would look like as a projectile LMAOO

oh i guess i just needed to keep reading lol im not very sober at the moment sorry

yeah i think i personally have this problem where i just assume all balance discussion is happening at my elo (masters) or higher for some reason, i really need to stop doing that.

not even on any skill elitism type shi i don’t consider myself to be super super good. i just automatically assume balancing looks at the higher ranks only, so you have a good point there.

i don’t like the idea of removing role passives from specific characters exclusively, that kinda defeats the point of having a passive due to the role you picked. if that’s the case, maybe we need to look at the support passive in terms of changing it all together to something else?

yayy compromise!! this is why i love you :heart:

i guess it depends on the nitty gritty of it but this seems to be in line with what blizzard has done in the past!!

i’m curious. if you had to remove the support passive as it is now and replace it with something else, what would you suggest?

Im sure its an YZNSA nerf again. Next time we hear that Echo too will be thrown into the pit.

Why is this post flagged? He has a legit concern. Have we become this toxic that speaking out against a role you hate facing suddenly can get false flagged?

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Because supports use mass flagging to silence what they deem the wrong opinion

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skill issue nothing more.

The same reason dps mains flag me for having a legit concern about dps heroes? :man_shrugging:

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And extra mobilty without a cooldown on it.

And three extra mobility blinks in waiting, all with short cooldowns.

Like, you can’t even get your list right.

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ana is fine where she is, she isnt op really its pretty much illari and lw, discord can be arguable

It’s crazy how every time support mains disagree with an opinion on the forums they false flag it.

Support mains are afraid of opinions

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I think it was them calling the role OP.

I’ve seen plenty of threads talking about nerfing down supports which don’t get flagged. Most of them don’t call the role op, or start ragging on the players of the role.

They need to show who flagged the post at the very least, or have a limit on how many post one person can flag. While majority’s opinion can be right most of the time, it isn’t always. Majority votes can be used to silence someone too and it isn’t right. But regardless, there’s too much of “nErF sUpPoRtS” threads already, so I don’t feel bad that this post got flagged even though it shouldn’t.

He’s not wrong, the role is OP

I can say someone is an idiot, and not be wrong, but I would expect to be flagged anyway right?

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