Blizzard cracked gambling

Games are too random, well, that’s how gambling works. Some expert should look at it, this game shouldn’t be in the hands of kids.

I mean loot boxes at the end of the day are fine. It’s not really gambling if you don’t get money in return.

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Kid’s don’t have credit cards either. It’s the parents responsibility at the end of the day.

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It’s not gambling though, nothing is being bet in a match.

Games are random? Well, yes of course they are if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Honestly lets just ban computers for kids, not an issue :+1:

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I mean… you could always use the LFG tool… or join the Overwatch Forum Discord… or party with people you find in random games… and, like, stuff.

https://discord.gg/WDgC3Pyn

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Sure it is. It’s non-deterministic with some kind of biased expected outcome/payout bets (c.f. the 8+ patents on rigged matchmaking and SR rewards). The laddering is entirely a gamble, but with odds you can in theory overcome the way you can play/beat odds in stuff like Poker.

The ladder would classify as a population-based, repeated stochastic metagame of the actual game. An actual 6v6 match reduces to a 2-player zero-sum game if you assume cooperative behaviour amongst your team (no sabotagers working for the enemy). This makes it simpler to weakly solve and write engines that mine optimal strategies. That is because there are no pRNG effects in OW (random damage or interaction radii etc.). Everything is fixed deterministic in some sense, reducing the complexity down from say EXPSPACE into probably PPAD.

Man dont you got like a book to write on your crazy theories? Im not reading your trash anymore.

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Like I said they can’t take a piss in space without paying me royalties.
Everytime that suction cup goes on, it’s me who wins. Ez Nasa.

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Man just learn the game and stop complaining on the forums already. If you spent as much time playing the game and learning your mistakes as you did complaining all day on the forums you wouldnt need to complain anymore.

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Just joined and it’s literally dead. Last post in LFG was over a month ago.

Do you really think it’s a valid option?

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Much like rigged slot machines at a casino, competitive Overwatch matches are not “random” at all. Competitive Play is handicapped with Match Making Rating (MMR). More information in my thread on the subject:

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no no, this game is pure gambling, granted that you don’t drop a $ each time you play, but the means are different. Your level goes up and makes you look bad if you don’t climb -> smurf account. The grouping with GM and Silver accounts in competitive is abusable at will -> smurf account. The more random the game, the more you want to play to get that good game out of 20 -> addictive, your rank goes up, you look bad -> smurf account,…it’s a never ending loop. Everything is made for you to purchase new accounts, and abuse the system by smurfing and giving a bad game to everyone, which in return will create more smurf accounts, the maths are so evil, I don’t understand why anyone would let a kid play with the devil’s toys.

Loot boxes are a form of gambling in my opinion. The law just hasn’t caught up with it just yet and legislators around the world are looking into this.

Overwatch does it okay because it is just cosmetics but I personally am unhappy having to grind out basic emotes and colour changes in a game. At the same time I appreciate that having an alternate revenue stream aside from game sales can help prolong the game as it is a service rather than a traditional product.

And yes I would argue Magic the Gathering booster packs and blind toy boxes are a type of gambling which I dislike as well! I do not like collectible card games!

I mean you could say it seems like gambling because of randomness and it’s ‘like a throw of the dice’ on who you get on a team but the actual ‘gambling’ of the game is the loot box system.