The scenario you describe doesnât paint Bastion in good light, but I am saying this as someone in the anti-Bastion camp, so I am admittedly a little biased.
In regards to your scenario, yes. Bastion can be overwhelmed by multiple characters jumping on him at the same time in a big rush, and if thatâs done correctly, he falls like paper. (Personally, I go with Zenyatta and discord him, my team focuses him, and he falls fast). I donât disagree with that. The issue I have is, thatâs whatâs required. In my opinion, if a characterâs weakness is âeveryone dogpiling on them at the same timeâ, then theyâre a poorly designed character. Not necessarily OP, just poorly designed.
That is how Bastion is easily countered when TEAM WORK is involved.
Pocket any dps and you need a strategy to counter it.
Bastion alone would still have all sorts of counters
Not sure it applies, because I believe I understand your point. However, I may not have expressed it clearly (was in a rush).
The point being, Bastion falls to teamwork. I agree. Thatâs his counter. My stance is just, fundamentally, if a characterâs counter is âteamworkâ, then that character has a flawed design (I said the same thing for some characters in LoL, back when I played it).
In my analogy i was pointing out that he doesnât become some kind of fortress when pocketed like others may think, and that when paired with teamwork on his own side, teamwork counters it well.
Youâre still going at this like heâs somehow always pocketed no matter what, and calling countering the hero at all, needing teamwork. which is just not true.
been on the ptr today and 2-2-2 will be the last straw for me, been a good few years but the end is and has become close and personal. All ability for players to adapt on the fly is stripped out of the game the meta will be a version of bunker comp.
Yea, Bastion falls pretty easily when heâs by himself. I think we can all agree that is the huge issue with his design.
With him being pocketed and bunkered though, itâs less an issue of him being OP and him being the captain of the anti-fun brigade. Playing around him by developing this master plan of flanks and ganks and mega-focusing him is just not fun at all, and instead of playing Overwatch, we all have to play âget the Bastionâ.
Itâs frustrating, and part of what makes it that way, in my opinion, is how easy Bastion has it in that scenario. Yea, heâs not OP, but he reaps so much reward for doing as little as possible. All he has to do is sit there while his team babies him. My joke is âHow to play Bastion: 1) drop in sentry mode. 2) tape down your left click. 3) Go make a sandwich.â
Again, Bastionâs not impossible to deal with like this, but a team building around him is the only way heâs viable, so thatâs why I always reference that. By himself, heâs a throw pick. Iâd like to see him be viable on his own. As he is now, heâs either a throw pick, or a huge part of some annoying cheese comp.
Omnics are soulless pieces of metal ⊠would you pity a toaster if it didnât work correctly But seriously âŠ. Bastion is very strong in low elos and useless in high ones âŠ. he needs a total rework i think.
I started playing Sombra to counter Bastion because most people around gold canât do anything else than spamming damage and have no idea what to do when this doesnât work âŠ. if the enemy had a Bastion there was a 80% - 90% Chance of losing when i played healer/tank.
Well role queue is coming even to QP⊠Iâm not sure if I want to be bothered starting the next megathread any more. This is so blatantly forcing a meta.
And theyâre again making a change which disproportionately screws a bastion who isnât being pocket healed. Itâs impossible to counter-heal against a 350 damage pulse bomb in time, but constantly healed by even a mercy: easy.
Maybe Iâll come back occasionally to play quickplay classic in arcade, but if the devs arenât invested in Bastion then I canât be invested enough in a megathread.
Not what I see at all. 2-2-2 can create more team comps. Nerfing orisaâs barrier nerfs bunker so the meta is uncertain atm. We could get a DVa ball Ashe McCree mercy Baptiste meta who knows. It sounds crazy but itâs possible
Also bastion is very meta in gm because of the bunker meta
But seriously âŠ. Bastion is very strong in low elos and useless in high ones âŠ. he needs a total rework i think.