Bap goes from balanced to extremely opressive?

It’s pretty weird.

His ultimate is crazy now from literally zero shields in play anymore.
And his imortialty field hasn’t changed much.

Did the barrier sledgehammer nerfed just cause him to become extremely powerful?
I would nerf his ultimate charge and increase I.field Cooldown to 25 seconds.

Do you guys think he needs a nerf to adjust to the meta?

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Mercy’s specialty: bunker and dive
Ana’s specialty: any comp
Moira’s specialty: deathball and anti dive
Baptiste’s specialty: deathball and bunker

The meta is deathball and bunker right now

Betcha Baptiste would settle down some if Winston and D.va got buffed, if dive made a come back.

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I wouldn’t go so far as to call him oppressive, but the current meta comps favor him pretty heavily. He’s more weak to dive but Winston and D.va are pretty much unplayable. The only hero that you can really comfortably pick to hard counter him is Doomfist. Hammond is a good counterpick but requires you to actually be good with him and the enemy to not run Mei. Roadhog is a decent soft counter as well.

Bring dive back to at least playability.
Eventually scale back burst healing (i.e baptiste and Ana)
Slightly scale back burst damage
Otherwise don’t touch baptiste outside of QOL for his exo boots/regen burst and give him his spawn room interactions/fanservice skins

People who want to nerf IF are flat wrong.

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His lamp lasts 4 seconds too long imo.
And he was always this strong he just didn’t fit goats.

I think Bap’s kit is actually quite balanced. Just his overall damage is too high for a support. They could just revert the falloff buff and maybe adjust the clip sizes again. That’s all.

Not to mention, that Baptiste is actually pretty vulnerable to Dive. The problem is that at the moment Dive is far away from being enabled due to the current meta. The problem here are actually the meta DPS: Mei and Hanzo (As well Reaper?). Mei and Hanzo are very frustrating to dive/flank, so of course no one is going to play Dive into them. When they get adjusted properly, Dive might become en vogue again and Bap is going to lose a lot of his weight on the meta.
In short: Bap is not very unbalanced, most of his influence comes from him being a beneficiary of the current meta.

He’s not broken, just the meta shifted to where he’s very strong so it appears he’s oppressive and OP.

Just wait till you see Zenyatta

He was crazy strong before. People have never slept harder on a hero than with Bap.
In GM prior to his buff and the changes, he had a respectably high pick rate of 4.25%, with an incredibly high win rate of 54.5%, putting his win rates up pretty much at Orisa and Sigma’s.

I think the changes just highlighted how strong he was and people have woken up to how stacked a kit he really has.

Zen doesn’t main heal, doesn’t have vertical mobility with no cool down, doesnt get ult twice a fight and doesnt have his immortality ult on a cool down (and his is countered by Ana’s nade!).

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Well, yeah.

  1. He got a huge buff all at once.
  2. His main competition was completely deleted.