I’m amazed by these discord chats.
Like … are these morons not aware that they’re paying for something illegal & eventually it can backfire ? Rofl, this is just so stupid. I remember the good old WoW days with Honorbuddy and most of the people were like completly fine by getting banned eventually. Like it’s something you take into consideration when doing things like that.
But this … is this a new generation thing or are they straight up retards … I don’t get it
Yeah ok i get it, but i was talking about hack/aimbot users, they dont need to use hacks in metal ranks. Smurfing with cheat would be extremely dumb, nobody does that lol.
I play pretty much every day and never see hack users. In 4 years i saw 4 cheaters using aimbot in bronze-plat.
Alt acc users are not cheaters btw. Only the one who try to keep low elo on purpose.
You just don’t know what to look for.
Cheaters get banned every week. Last ban wave was 2 days ago.
Casual cheating is not really a problem. I mean it sucks, but it’s not an epidemic. I’ve known a lot of serious gamers, and while some of them might cheat if they could get away with it, none of them would ever spend money on cheating. They’d rather put that money toward new hardware or a new game.
Professional cheating is a huge problem. By that I mean scenarios where the cost of an aimbot is business overhead.
In the old WoW days, level 60 (or 70) accounts could sell for hundreds of dollars (more than $1000 if you had rare items or top-tier raid sets). And then there was a gold-selling epidemic that lasted for years, supported by Chinese “gold farmers” and automated gold-farming bots. Cheating could empower a valid gaming services business in those days.
The same is true today. People sell OW accounts and boosting services, but there’s an added dimension of streamers who are trying to make gaming a full-time job. If you want to be a pro OW player or a popular streamer, you have every incentive to cheat. Back in OWL S1 one of the coaches grumbled publicly about people who look like great players until they get onto monitored hardware. For a lot of people, it’s worth the risk, and with private hacks apparently there isn’t even much of a risk – just a cost. But if you can pull in a few thousand dollars per month as a streamer, then a few hundred dollars for a private aimbot is well worth it.
False. You just weren’t playing well enough for them to toggle on. The “4 cheaters” you saw were full rage mode. Over the past several months in Gold and Plat, if you played really well you’d see them toggle on late in the game. They hope to not have to toggle, but they’ll do it, and there is a clear and obvious progression of aimbot settings all the way up to rage mode if necessary. It would look like a miraculous late-game comeback, but the replay would show that they were shooting at walls or intentionally missing shots until time was almost up, then they’d toggle on and stomp. It’s been extensively documented in the forum here.
We can’t see stacks anymore, but when we could, it was always a 2-stack with a healer (the one being boosted) and an aimbot DPS (the booster’s throwaway account).
yea the issue with lower rank is there is so many people there in GM+ there isnt many people we always meet eachother from the discord in ranked reason why its top 1%
Well i know but all I did was botting my chars up to max level (((:
However, was just pointing out that i find all these crybabies funny. Especially the discord chats that are leaked on their twitter page.
Also yeah, everyone who cares so much about the game that he needs to cheat can aswell just learn to get better so their skill doesn’t depends on a software.
Sorry but no, not really. I played exactly in that elo past few months, and i played very good usualy, climbing, carried many games and didnt notice anything. Nobody suddendly played better. I am pretty sure i would notice. Definitely on dps heroes as every time i saw something fishy i went to replay to be sure its not aimbot.
You are talking about it as hack users were in every second game almost. Thats definitely not the case in ranks below diamond as i play there frequently. And again, i would notice as i can spot someone who doesnt belong in my elo too. I am not saying nobody is using it, but if someone was in my games, it was pretty bad hack/aimbot.
And i have absolutly no idea how could be your experience in same elo that different.
If I would have problems with cheaters myself, i would notice, dont you think? I dont see a way how woukd i not if they would affect my games.
if you watch timeisbutawindow he always watching players that end up turning the cheat on/up near the end of the game because another player is cheating. anecdotal evidence with video proof.
I’ve been on hundred-match streaks over a period of weeks where it’s nothing but these kinds of full potato to full rage mode escalations. You don’t even have to watch the replay to notice it. And if you call out their cheating, they immediately go full rage mode and focus you for the rest of the match. I had one cheat/boost duo try to spawn camp me (and no one else on my team) across several matches because they were so furious.
I think a lot of complaints about “smurfs” are actually complaints about cheating, and a lot of complaints about “forced loss streaks” and “bad teammates” are actually about boost-related wintrading. Boost groups use the “avoid as teammate” function to force their shill accounts to be matched against them. If they “avoid” you, too, you’re screwed – it’s a guaranteed loss streak.
A long time ago, high-skilled players would boost accounts by logging in and playing them. Then Blizzard started banning accounts that logged in from multiple locations with varying skill levels, so boosters started working in stacks.
It became a big business, which made cheating inevitable. At some point, an aimbot developer started the arms race by getting into the boosting business. This made it much more difficult for the non-aimbotting boosters to deliver on their promises because boosting only really works when you aren’t matched against competing boosters. In response, more boosters started aimbotting, and there are enough of them now that they are often at war with one another in OW matches and IRL with DDoS attacks. I’ve been in the middle of that several times, with rage mode aimbots on both sides – you can’t even play legitimately when that happens. I’ve seen them negotiate a “truce” in match chat (agreeing to draw in round 2 to avoid a prolonged 5-round war).
If you think I’m making this up, then see for yourself. At almost any given moment of any day, you can go to LFG in the Overwatch client and find someone obviously or subtly offering boosting services (and also a ton of throw-to-Bronze groups, which are often boosters). There’s an /r/overwatchboosting subreddit, and a Google search for “Overwatch boosting” will show you the highest-volume boost companies. Or in any given match that seems like it’s a lot harder than it should be, just ask in match chat: “How much for a boost?” You’ll get prices, URLs, discord links.
There are probably still non-aimbotting players doing professional boosting, but the profit margin has to be considerably lower than a year or two ago. A good player with an aimbot is going to boost more accounts more quickly than a great player without one.
There is no way to stop non-aimbot boosting. You can’t ban someone for grouping with someone for the purpose of climbing, even if that “friend” is actually a “client.” But the amount of money in the boosting industry makes aimbotting inevitable. For that reason, I think a significant portion of the anti-cheat crusade at high ELO is actually about eliminating boost competition. The legitimate T-500 players want more boosting money and are trying to stamp out the aimbot-based boost operations.
Can I actualy play with you sometimes to see them? Because I have no damn clue what are you talking about as I didnt see aimbot user in my high gold/plat games several months. Are you US or EU?
There are definitely cheaters in low ranks as well, but not as many as some people claim. At least from my experience, they are pretty rare. I play in plat and see someone suspicious about every 15 games maybe.
Like this person aimbotting with D.Va that I encountered a few weeks ago:
Sure. US, central. I don’t know how you could not have had at least one match where your team held A until the last 30 seconds of round 1, then the other team suddenly became super-competent and stomped through A and B, or to the end of the payload map. Or maybe it looks like this: you’re slapping a noob Hanzo or McCree around like a ragdoll, then he starts getting a “lucky” headshot now and then, and by the end of the match he’s getting team kills with all headshots, and you can’t even sneak up on him with Sombra and get a hack off without getting 180 headshotted.
If you play really well – well enough to rank up fairly easily with a ~55% winrate or higher – you can’t possibly have avoided these kinds of matches unless you’re on a different server, or in a different universe. I’ve seen other people talk about it in this forum, too. Or take a look at timeisbutawindow’s stream, as suggested above.
If this ban wave is serious, though, games are going to be much cleaner for a while. I’m going to do my placements tonight.
I guess I play in different universe then 
as from what I have seen, people in EU were banned a lot too. I play in EU. But I often goes playing on my alt to US, didnt see cheaters there either, only toxic people claming its their servers and we should get out if we are from EU.
Just check my profile, I dont know if you can see my winrates there from previous seasons. I did climb from mid gold to plat on dps with 55+% winrate, on support with 65+% winrate from mid gold to plat and on tank with 70%+ winrate on roadhog from low gold to diamond.
Would you be able to accept possiblity that you are mistaken actualy? Just asking 
maybe you think they have aimbots but they dont? Did you check them in replay every time?
timeisbutawindow… i could not find anything, he is playing some other shooter games, not overwatch.
EDIT: btw i was actualy streaming a lot of my games in previous season. So if you want to check them ? Be my guest, you will not find cheaters 
I have just searched relevant forums and various trading platforms. Nothing has changed. The last sales are not even an hour old and the cheats are undetected.
If the current laws do not change, these cheats will remain undiscovered.
As much as I’d like to see that ban wave, it doesn’t exist.
Christ that guy has the awareness of a pebble. Definite cheat though.
Well, that explains the current huge amount of low level DPS players who are playing really poorly 
probably CriticalHit since there was just a banwave on accounts which have used it
The naysayers are bordering on ridiculous.
Players don’t realize just how realistic aim bots and other cheats are these days, and it only took so long because the quality of programmers who made the OW aim bots were very low.
Watching a replay I remember there were only one or two impossible shots that revealed the player was cheating. Even those looked natural and it was only a blink-and-you-miss moment that revealed it wasn’t an accident.
Blizzard has been too slow to react and the players with the blinders on had made the game worse.