I’ll agree with you that the bad matches are Blizzard’s fault, and can be attributed to more than one factor.
But blaming the players for leaving matches because they are so focused on completing their quests is just idiotic.
Except it is a factor, I can try to find the post, but there were a few people on the forum who were telling why they leave games, and one of the reason they listed was that quest required wining games, so they would leave any game that looked like a loss.
Its literally a reason people gave for why they leave games.
Its not the sole reason or even a major reason, but it was a reason.
Edit: Here are a few post the mention it that I could find on short notice
I think the thread is being derailed somewhat. People can leave games for many reasons but my topic is not about them. I don’t leave games win or lose thus I am annoyed that I am labelled a leaver by the system when it kicked me out of the backfilled game and penalised me without giving me enough to react.
I tried opening a ticket but I can’t seem to open one. I like to hear from the game devs or someone from the company why they can’t alert us to the backfilled games just the same as full games.
Out of curiosity do you know how the leaver penalty actually works?
Actually many times the game just throws you on the hero select screen quietly even if you have all the audio on and you can only hear it when the afk timer starts counting.
happened to me many times even before the leaver penalty thing.
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Not sure since I don’t leave games much. I am just reporting on what I encountered over the past few weeks.
I’ve had maybe half a dozen backfills since the quitter penalty came in, and those are generally when I flex queue. Prior to that, it was about 1 backfill every 5 games. I like backfills, and wouldn’t mind if they gave me more.
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The leaver penalty system works this way
In Unranked Modes, leaving two to three of your last 20 games played will result in a 2-minute suspension from queuing for most modes. If you continue to leave games, the suspension can increase to 10 minutes, then 2 hours and finally 48 hours.
As far as we know it does not effect endorsement levels like you claimed in your Orginal post.
Also the max penalty for leaving is 48 hours, which requires for you to leave around 80% of the games you play.
If its more then 48 hours it probably not caused by the leaver penalty but something else.
It absolutely penalizes your endorsement level. It informs you when it happens.
https://preview.redd.it/penalized-after-timer-is-gone-v0-ntxv80t2fwuc1.png?width=444&format=png&auto=webp&s=d849c2f68b9dd93ae55395ecea774a931252281c
See this image as an example.
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It definitely showed text that my endorsement level has been penalised though I don’t see any changes since I am level 4. Perhaps the hidden internal numbers have been lowered but I have not crossed the threshold to drop to level 3 yet so I don’t visibly see it.
And I don’t care about the 48 hrs thing since if I get that by backfilling games I will probably quit OW permanently. Reminder…I did not purposely or have any intention to leave games.
Maybe not alt tab out of the game while waiting for a match… might save u the headache… but continue to do the same crap over n over n over again while not paying attention results in a you issue
wanst sure about endorsement levels as I couldnt find official documentations, and ive only ever received the 2min suspention once, and that didnt reduce mine.
could also be a comp vs QP situation
I don’t think I am the only one who alt-tabs out while waiting for games. If that is not encouraged (by devs or others) then the system shouldn’t alert us by blinking on desktop when we join a game. If there is such a feature, means the game devs have anticipated such issues.
I also don’t think anyone like staring at the same screen for 5-10 mins while they can alt-tab to read some articles or watch some videos. Do you actually stay at the screen and not alt-tab? I am curious if you enjoy waiting for the screen to change or do you get such short queue times that you get games in a couple mins all the time?
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Backfill does not do a windows notification. It’s still a problem and they still won’t fix it. Getting into a game at the start does do a notification like you’d expect.
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You have like 10 seconds to react.
It doesn’t tear down your endorsement from one thing.
This one is on you bud.
This is exactly why they took out auto-queue from QP. Now you don’t have an excuse. You clicked to queue, and you weren’t there. Here’s your prize.
Yeah, but my headset works. So as soon as I hear Athena say “now arriving at Dorado” or wherever, I’m aware before character select is even popped up.
I don’t think you read the entire thread properly. A full 10 seconds is rare since for the OW icon to blink and for you to react, you would more likely have 7 seconds or less. And even if I pick Soldier and sprint out the spawn door, I still get kicked as I mentioned in the earlier post.
And the endorsement thing has been answered by someone already so check out the image.
I don’t use headsets since I have a stereo speakers which works well for my casual non-competitive games. And someone also mentioned about audio cues not precise and clear in another post.
FYI I just backfilled into another QP game and true to what was said, there is only a short trill before I was thrown into a backfill game. And funny thing is, I caught this game because I heard a earlier short trill which make me think I have entered a game but the screen changed back into “finding game” mode. I stared at the screen a full min before I got the backfill game and drop straight into the hero selection screen.
I think you missed my earlier point of the game system not alerting us to backfill games earlier but rather a full min later which have a major impact on the match with 1 less player. All the system need to do is to notified the alt-tab players as soon as they entered the backfill games just like they do when we enter a full game.
There is no hope that they will ever fix the backfill icon flash thingy, as I’m pretty sure that I made a bug report about it roughly 5 years ago. (tho they could just hate me and ignored it)
The theory I have is that people who quit games frequently get priority for being backfill. So during higher pop times anyone who isn’t leaving games rarely if ever see backfill.
This is also possibly the reason all the anti leaver penalties people on here claim they are seeing a massive increase in throwers and trolls.
Because they are putting leavers in a leaver queue and they are witnessing the behaviors their fellow leavers perform.
Meanwhile, those of us who do not quit games are seeing considerably less backfill and less disruptive behaviors.
Yeah I wasn’t very bothered with it in the past since there weren’t penalties that I am aware of. Now I am just annoyed being labelled a leaver when I clearly have no intention of being one. I have been backfilling a lot of games lately which is getting on my nerves especially when I miss the games whilst alt-tab.
If they can’t fix that backfill icon flashy thing then at least reduce or remove the penalities for backfilling. I rather play full games then backfill frankly.
I am fine with backfilling but why punish me even more when I am not aware that I am backfilling. When we backfill, we are doing the game a favour by filling an empty slot but the penalities are harsh if we miss it. I do not gain anything special by backfilling other people’s games beside feeling like a hero if we manage to win or exasperated when we lose. There is no benefit to me other then the hope that someone in future will do the same for my 4v5 games. But I do not wish the same penalties on them if they also are not aware that they have backfilled into my game since it is not their fault.
My longest queue times are 3 minutes.
I just read news or stuff on my phone when i queue.
The absolute longest times are recently in arcade mystery heroes. 5 minutes.