Your using an overwatch argument that doesnt put blame on anyone no matter what…tanks create space for dps, dps gaurd the healers and ward off other dps, and the healers heal both…And this argument also fails in the hypothetical of a dps player who is bad, and doesnt take kills when they can…your argument is the worst I have come across on this thread…
Ideally, you need all 3 components to get kill: DPS, that does good damage, tank, that absorbs damage from target, and support, both to help tank absorb damage and to buff DPS for more damage.
That also implies, that should one of 3 chains fail, other can make up for it: buffs and tank allow DPS to succeed, even if one isn’t great. Good tank makes life easier for support/DPS, so they still can succeed, even if one of them isn’t good. Same with support.
In this argument though, everyone is blameless no matter what, or the wrong person is blamed, and it doesnt take into account characters like mei that are dps, have a heal and immune, and a wall, mei is every role,this argument is just old and circular
Yes, some heroes were designed to be an “army of one”. In the past, it was Roadhog, that combined high damage, self-heal and high health.
so what is your point cleo
That Blizzard really messed up, when they added such heroes.
ana 1
-heals rein to full hp
-genji lands 3 bodies and a dash on a zen
-doesn’t get kill because he’s a horrible human being who couldn’t do the easy task of landing 3 headshots in a row followed by a dash and escaping
ana 2
-heals rein to 550hp
-lands 1 shot on a zen
-zen dies to the genji
why would you not contribute to damage on support?
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I agree, yet when we try to remove some of those characters for having an oppressive ability or primary, then people cry that it is part of their character and that removing it damages the lore of the character and the character all entirely, but the argument is, is that those characters should never have been there in the first place, we wouldnt be damaging lore, because those characters should NEVER have been in the game
Because it’s not my job, simple as that. Just like tank’s job is to keep teammates protected, not charge into enemy team and leave them exposed to enemy fire.
Just like 76 has healing ability, but he shouldn’t be out chasing wounded teammates - he should be killing enemies.
what is your point here, what is your argument
Your job is support, not strictly healing. You do a disservice your team by not fighting to the best of your ability.
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Disagree on this - every healer has the ability to kill, so they should use it when the time is right.
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The best of her ability entails better healing
He should be coordinating with his team. A 76 who uses his heal without any awareness of his team, is not a good player and you shouldn’t base your play around that idea.
It honestly sounds like you’re the type of support player who blames everyone else, without reflecting on what more could you have done to win the fight.
A poor tradesmen blames their tools. The same goes for one who refuses to use all of the tools in their kit.
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Time is right, if you messed up yourself and have to shoot your way out. Which is why gun is “plan B” for your role.
If you are saying that characters should be autonomous of their role, then you allow for the concept of losing because of a teammate, what is your argument
its you job to win the game
owl season 1 mvp had some of the worst heals on zen in the league btw, but they went uncontested for the first half
i guess the other teams just had bad dps d:
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I wonder if there’s a psychological term for this. It’s definitely a definable pattern.
Ah. I found it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
I am not here to do everyone’s job for them. And I never use VC anyway, because in my opinion, teammates are free to do anything they want.
So you are saying that since an ana or healer potentially get kills to win the team fight, they should, wouldnt this mean that ana should just dps ana because she could get multiple kills this way…