Article 13 has officially passed

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That makes me angry :rage:

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I wonder. Say this goes into full effect…but people don’t stop posting memes? Thousands, if not millions of people keeping memes and other “copyright violations” onto the internet. Bots and other stuff will try to catch it all but it reaches a point where even they can’t keep up. Say there’s 100 million people in the EU and 90 million people keep doing this all day every day. Will they even bother to keep enforcing a law that they otherwise can’t enforce and almost the entire population keeps violating?

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It’s just for platforms where you earn money with the uploaded stuff.

Ofc you still can upload pictures.

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They’re bots - trying to push them past the point where they can keep up is probably unrealistic.

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Welp, I hope lots of people move away from any countries in the European Union then, because they really don’t need to deal with that crap.

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Its not going to be too bad in my opinion.

Yeah, it sucks on paper ,but I highly doubt anyone is gonna give a f… about people posting memes and stuff like that.

Its kinda the same situation as piracy. Almost everyone used a torrent sites at least once in their life, but I don’t see jails being overpopulated

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This law is way more clear cut and invasive than any piracy law, dude.

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Can’t we make a petition online that signs AGAINST article 13 and also any form of tempering with the internet?

We can call it “Forbid article 13 and protect Net Neutrality!”

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Honestly, the law is worded really wonky anyway.

Youtubers, who are the most vocal and most heard group, are mostly just really upset, because theyre likely faced with more wonky youtube-algorithms or atleast the fact that they cant steal content with reaction-videos anymore without having to pay a share to the original content creator.

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Our grandparents have war stories but were gonna have article 13 stories

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it still has to be aproved by the european council

It’s theoretically possible that the final text will fail to gain a majority of member states’ approval when the European Council meets later this month, but this would require at least one key country to change its mind. Toward that end, German and Polish activists are already re-doubling their efforts to shift their government’s key votes.

and assuming they pass it it has to be made into laws by each individual country, theres all the fact that it apparently contradicts existing laws and itself

But there’s also opportunities for the courts to rein in the Directive – or even throw out its worst articles entirely. One key paradox at the heart of the Directive will have to be resolved very soon. Article 13 is meant to be compatible with the older E-Commerce Directive, which explicitly forbids any requirement to proactively monitor for IP enforcement (a provision that was upheld and strengthened by the ECJ in 2011). Any law mandating filters could be challenged to settle this inconsistency.

anyone who thinks the uk leaving the eu, assuming that happens, will prevent this kind of thing in the uk doesn’t understand the british government, for example next month they are introducing filters for “adult content”

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If the law is enforced, the content creators have to draw their own thumbnails and create their own music from scrap. YouTube is going to be a dead wasteland in EU.

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That is, if they suck at licensing and Youtube cant create proper algorithms.
A used song might see 10% of the ad-revenue go to the creator of the song, realistically speaking.

I dont really see how creating “Your own thumbnail” is too much to ask, if youre planning on making a living off youtube.

It’s up to each state to decide what’s going to happen anyway.
Article 13 states that states would have to consider what’s “reasonable” and what isn’t “reasonable.”

“Reasonable” is a wonky word.

wiki.openrightsgroup. org/wiki/Adult_content_filtering_regulation

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Amazon would likely be responsible for the copyrighted material you stream.
If you blast copyrighted music all day and stream John Wick 3 all day, you might force Amazons hand in some way or another.

Would Twitch deduct shares of your ad-revenue to the copyright holders for that or terminate your account / vods?
Noone knows how theyre going to tackle this yet.

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The UK will still be at the mercy of laws from supermassive economies around the world leaving the EU won’t change that all I will serve to do is amplify the amount of hoops UK companies will have to jump through to apply with laws for every other major economies in the world the UK has gone from pretty much the paramont rule maker in the Western world in terms of banking and economics to the ultimate rule taker. US and European banking establishments must be rubbing their hands at the chance they have to swallow up London.

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You know what the big platforms or pretty much any platform is going to do “within reason”? They are going to adapt the easy position : “I dont want to deal with any copyright stuff so anything from EU is blocked”.

Easy.

In Twitch for example, they can mute the vod but in EU they will have to remove the content and study what is “fair use”. Otherwise they will be liable and nobody likes to be liable for millions of people that could or could not be “reasonable” or not with their uploads.

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I don’t know what country you’re from, but wouldn’t it be better to sign a petition that calls for a “Country namexit” ?

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Why would it be affected? OneDrive is Microsoft service.

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well that’s kind of the point of a eu regulation. precise wording is the job of the member states