Anyone else hate the cross over stuff?

I’ll never get it. It’s a PvP game. never needed immersion for a game like this. An huge open world rpg that makes sense.

But immersion in Overwatch went away a long time ago. Like imagine that team comp all working together to push the payload on girbralter so Winston can send a rocket to the moon. None of that makes any sense.

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I mean, Hanzo does have a patronus…

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So do Kiriko and Genji.

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I disagree. The crossover stuff is good.

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It’s just cosmetics,the vast majority of the cosmetics are non canon anyway.

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It doesn’t help that they’re like… 5 years behind the curve of relevancy. Like One Punch man was like… 2015? Didn’t John Cena retire in like 2019?

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Wait. Are you saying mercy isn’t a lifeguard? :exploding_head:

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I was devastated when I found out Sym isn’t a Dragon :pensive:

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The original gundam came out nearly 50 years ago.

They just released a new gundam movie based on an obscure episode from the series that initially got pulled because they didn’t like how it came out.

Liking old anime isn’t a weird thing to me, and don’t think it would be down the line.

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The one punch man promo was less jarring than John Cena. Plus he seems to be presented as canon.

I mean so does any of the goofy non-lore stuff too.

If we can have that, why couldn’t we have crossover stuff?

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I mean since we are still listening to centuries old music its not outworldish to think that people could watch and enjoy OPM decades in the future.

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He’s as canon as Megan Fox promoting Diablo,which is not at all.

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I love OPM, but I’m not going to pretend every manga or anime I like is going to have Gundam levels of staying power. People are still talking about Gundam today, sure. But no one’s talking about Josephine the Whale, Captain Future (which itself was an adaptation of something from the 40’s,) etc.

There’s plenty of old manga I enjoy, some that’s still getting attention (I was reading the Duwang translations of Diamond is Unbreakable when I was in my late teens/early 20’s and I’m glad to see the series still going strong,) and some that have just kind of been ignored (Like The Big O, which was a great show that hasn’t had anything happen with it in almost 2 decades.)

Even without that though, it’s still distracting to me personally to see a blatant crossover IP in a game that could and should have its own strong story and identity.

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Thanks.

And like I said, I can definitely see the appeal of wanting some crossover stuff. I mean Smash Bros. as a series was based kind of just off that entirely. HotS was my favorite MOBA of all time and it was a mash-up of multiple IPs that did well. The Sentai vs. Rider movie that had Gokai Red and Kamen Rider Decade running around constantly swapping to comparable forms was gold to me.

But all those examples were spin-off things, and all within the same company. Smash is a mishmash of Nintendo IPs, and in its own game: Marth isn’t making any noticeable appearances in a Metroid game. HotS was also clearly a spin-off, even making a point that the characters were being pulled from their own respective worlds that were all Blizzard IPs to have this never-ending battle, and they even started to give it some of its own lore. The Sentai vs. Rider movie was a non-cannon fanservice spin-off of Toei IPs, that didn’t try to put Riders in the main Sentai series or Sentai in the main Rider series. It kept it separate, and only used its own stuff.

I like some crossovers. And I can completely understand someone wanting to see something they love mixing with something else they love, so I get whereyou’re coming from in wanting to see something like a RWBY outfit. But I’m glad I was able to get across why some people might not want to see them either, and that you understood it.

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Yes, it’s tacky at this point since everything does it

It’s only cool when it makes sense, like Smash Bros getting Nintendo or Nintendo related characters

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Eh, Nova/Kerrigan Widow, Lego Bastion and Demon Hunter Sombra are among my favorite skins in game. I’d be hypocritical to say crossovers are booty when I love those three/four crossover skins.

I don’t really care for John Cena or OPM so neither hit for me. Though I know nothing of Starcraft and still appreciate Nova/Kerrigan, so maybe the OPM skins just kinda suck.

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I made a similar point about Gundam that someone mentioned: just because we listen/watch/read something that was old doesn’t mean all old things get listened to/watched/read.

We listen to some centuries old music, but there was a ton of music that’s centuries old that have been lost to time. There are a ton of lost works, things we can assume exist because they were referenced but we have no surviving copies of them. Specifically in the case of classical music, we only really listen to the stuff that was lucky enough or considered good enough to be saved. Even from the composers we listen to nowadays, we don’t have all of their work: consider how much of Bach’s works are just gone, referenced but with no surviving copies of the music anywhere.

The Rambling about how we don't actually listen to all the music from 50 years ago, we listen to the music that was popular enough to survive in culture for 50 years.

And even without considering lost works, think about something like a radio station, and how it’s going to tend to play the most popular songs for whatever genre the station is. Think about all the songs that came out in 1973. There were hundreds of them. There were hundreds of albums released. But we don’t listen to all of those songs and albums. People still listen to Elton John and Pink Floyd, but society doesn’t really mention The Carpenters anymore.

If you look at books, songs, shows, movies, etc., you’ll see that tons of stuff gets made all the time, but a lot of it fades out of relevancy quickly enough. Even Wikipedia lists 174 movies to come out in America alone in 1973 (IMDB lists over 3,300 movies worldwide.) Some were big like The Exorcist. But what about Jory, The Neptune Factor, and Lolly-Madonna XXX? We’ve still got copies of them around, sure, but they aren’t really influencing anything.

The whole point is that while things from 50 years ago might still have cultural impact, it doesn’t mean everything that came out 50 years ago is definitely going to have a cultural impact, or that everything made now is going to still be relevant 50 years from now. While it’s not impossible for people 50 years from now to still love OPM, the odds of any one thing still being relevant isn’t that high. Star Wars and The Goodbye Girl both came out in the same year. One of those is still getting movies made and is worth $70 billion. One of them got to be played as background footage for the live action adaptation of a video game.

I feel like I’m rambling a bit, and this also doesn’t touch on the idea that crossovers can water down the identity of the thing they’re put in, but the TL;DR point of it all is that just because something might be popular 50 years from now is by no means a guarantee, and doesn’t get around the fact that taking something that’s currently popular and putting it in a setting that’s 50+ years from now is clearly pandering.

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We’d be getting SP//dr Hammond, right? And who would Spider-Gwen be? My first thought would be Kiriko but she got a skin for the OPM crossover. JQ as Hobie would be cool though I’m not sure if crossover cosplays can cross gender. Sigma could absolutely be the Spot. Could also maybe see Ramattra as either Spider-Man Noir or Miguel O’Hara.

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I mean, Pac-Man was 40 in 2020 and will definitely exist in 10 more years.

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