i do notice its a bit tougher with sojourn nowadays but hey it makes me picking ashe a very good choice since yea she is probably the strongest hitscan atm
so im fine with it but i never have hated sojourn. sojourn’s hate stems from the fact that she was very strong in her inception ALONG with the one shot. people hate being one shot which yea hehe i can understand that since ive played widow in her strongest inception as well… launch widow
if the hero is hated play it… why not
hahaha you got me with that.
No, seriously, I understand it too, I just wanted to refer to the numbers to have a basis.
However, as I mentioned to Toast, I understand that depending on the time and the elo at which the games are played, they will vary for each player.
I know that Toast is a high elo player and high elo is precisely where you get the most benefit from this type of heroes, in fact the whole problem with Souj stems from this, at high elos she was totally broken.
But as an intermediate player like me, Souj is almost gone.
(Diamond is intermediate and no one is going to change my mind lol)
You know, it is very likely due to the elo difference, you are a high elo player and I really don’t know what the average games are like up there xD
But at least I assure you that from Diamond on down, Souj is almost gone.
No not that many… and that’s perfectly ok.
Character unironically dominated from season 1 - 10. We’ll be fine with less sojourn for a little bit.
I have both a high elo and low elo role and in both high elo and low elo I see very little sojourn. Its not an elo thing.
I also agree with a little less Soujurn for a little bit, what I don’t agree with is the way she was nerfed, Blizz never looks for a real solution, they simply destroy the hereo and leave her forgotten, there are many cases throughout the rooster, It would hurt me if one more hero became unusable.
I mean, isn’t there a way to balance a hereo without making it totally useless?
And that is the point I wanted to get to with the Overbuff metrics, but well for each player the gaming experience varies, the only thing I can tell you from my own experience is that Soujurn is almost not seen in the game this season. 
Yeah blizzard only knows how to make characters useless. They have ruined Hanzo, Junkrat and almost widow at one point too. Seems like they will just keep going until no hero is left.
I would rather see op heroes than heroes that are totally useless. Because I don’t think anyone deserves their main to be completely useless. I would rather deal with an annoying op hero over having people’s characters ruined.
Ofc there is, the problem is the dev team sucks. So idk why we expect any difference.
This is the same dev team that released ow2 with doom as possibly the worst hero in the whole game, buffed him in the worst ways possible, and then nerfed him so hard he was left in a worse state than he released in…
After that? I have no hope for this team in doing the right thing. Most we can do is ASK for them to do the right thing, but evidently that almost never happens. They suck at their job.
I mean I have listed the stats multiple times and the evidence to this Toast guy. He just seems biased against soj and just seems hate her. There never seems to be getting through with him. He just ignores facts and believes what he wants.
I think most people can somewhat agree that their experience has been somewhat similar. I know other soj mains have stopped playing her completely. I have also seen a new great quality guide video on soj but nobody cares because the hero is so bad right now.
Yeah I wish they had like a dedicated balance team and actually look for people who actually play the game. It seems like the balance team just tweaks numbers randomly and takes random feedback without understanding the problem with heroes. Its like they only use people who haven’t played the game before.
If they had actual people who play the game balance it then maybe there would be some logic towards the balance of the game.
They don’t take feedback.
What they do is just balance based off numbers (win rates and pick rates) and balance with complete lack of context. They don’t know WHY heroes are bad or WHY heroes are too good.
They just see low numbers: “Oh! Time to spin the wheel or just pick some random thing to buff about them and then write up some A.I generated dev note on why we did that change even though it won’t make any sense!”
legit have not, to any meaningful moments. God bless
I do hate her. What I said about her not being the least common dps in my games but still not that highly played is also accurate.
Over a year ago I predicted that the moment she stops being S tier all of her so called mains will magically disappear because they’re just meta slaves abusing a broken hero. Turns out I was right.
Sojourn’s headshot damage on rail being a measly 150 while Pharah can spam out 120 damage rockets at will
overbuff is broken right now, cassidy’s winrate is at 8% and many others have record low winrates that would have made blizzard instabuff all of them
I’ve seen more Sojourn’s than Moira’s this season.
The ones I have seen have changed up their playstyle from tank farming and squishy killing to a more scalable 76.
It’s really what seperates an actual character main (who sticks with the character regardless of viability) vs a seasonal meta jumper. Only difference is Sojourn just stayed meta for more seasons than normal so they didn’t need to jump.
Yep. You can see how popular a hero really is when they’re not meta. The truly popular heroes maintain a disproportionately high pickrate regardless of their strength such as Genji, Mercy, Ana etc. Just to name a few.
The meta slave heroes disappear because they were only being played for free sr and not because players actually enjoy playing the hero.
Sojourn is pretty bad right now, like so bad to the point that pros and content creators have her tiered as one of the worst DPS heroes in the game.
She needs tweaks to her other abilities outside of Railgun, I’d probably give her like 10-15 more ammo due to her primary fire receiving a fire rate buff also would not be opposed to returning the movement slow to her disruptor shot.