Ana needs a nerf to Biotic Grenade

General Discussion
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Yeah unfortunately

It would be completely fine, yeah. But I am suggesting that with a very large bias against her ultimate as I still don’t think anyone should simply not be able to heal. Given how stupidly easy and large Queens ultimate hitbox is to land on people.

Personally just doesn’t sit well with me, if it was just the anti it’d be fine, but you go along and give her tick damage as well? This makes it actually such a horrible experience to me as there is quite literally nothing you can do after being hit, especially if you are in cover but it somehow manages to hit you due to the hitbox that is the size of Mars. You get hit and it’s just “guess I’ll die now” lol.

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It also has a stupidly long wind up and predictable trajectory. It’s extremely easy to counter. Also considering that, as an ultimate, it would be pretty weak without 100% anti-heal.

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A simple question, no offense, but which heroes do you usually play?

An important point: the game has a hero called Kiriko, who has a skill that removes the effect of the biotic grenade.

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Yeah but to be fair queen ult has a lot of counterplay so it’s not that bad. Shields block it, suzu negates it, simply playing split when she has it, most tanks can live with their cds, lotta squishies have self cleanse (sombra tp, wraith, fade) zarya can bubble it, she can get speared hindered, slept, shield bashed (with ult), sometimes a boop is enough, rally tree and beat can sustain through it idk. It’s like fine

Idk I’ve never been too mad about queen ult personally.

Ana nade I get it more because it’s just a cd at least

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Whats the Alternative braindead counter to excessive healing?

exactly.
it can’t be a ult. unless all healing becomes ults.

can’t have braindead healing without a halfway easy way to stop it if they are unable to play around 1 ability.

i add, ana is also responsible for the increase in healing. so the bonus heal increase should be deleted from nade. as a example.

anti is the last thing I would touch. any other effect can be nuked first (from nade)

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Shields don’t block rampage. JQ goes through them

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Yeah I know that, I’m just expressing my personal distaste with her ultimate.

Wind up doesn’t matter, if you’re behind cover you still get hit at times, what’s the point of going behind cover if it won’t even protect you? That’s my personal problem with it. The size of it is just stupid, not saying it needs to be changed at all, cause it doesn’t, I just simply do not like it. (Also it does go through shields btw)

No need to explain the inner workings of the ultimate. I understand that it is needed for her as a tank and I understand that there are counters and can play around it better, which I do.

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If she hits you directly yes. But unless your entire team is all in a line she won’t be able to hit everyone directly

Brig can shield the aoe as long as queen herself doesn’t make contact with brig

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Finally some fresh ideas.

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Wouldn’t be acceptable to some tank mains though

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give it an oed drop off dmg like junk mine, it should not give maximum benefits from basically missing your targets

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the cast time is 0.5 seconds

which is insanely fast

first of all your tank needs to be playing a stun, and then you’re relying on them to time the abillity perfectly, and who’s to say that she’s not in a position where she can already tag your teammates with anti heal before you stun her out of ult

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It genuinely feels like it’s so much longer than that.