Almost 35% decrease in Rank with an 8% increase in Player Score

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I climbed from Gold to Plat this season and I did that not by paying attention to my stats. I only use my stats as an indication that I’m doing the right things.

Instead I focus on the game and what my role is. I try not to pay attention to my stats at all during the match as its distracting. I focus more on what the enemy team comp is, track ults, track the status of the team fight and try to pre-empt the enemy strategy. I mostly mean tank so this leads to me making split second positioning decisions. I still make mistakes but I feel much more equipped to understand these mistakes and how to not repeat them.

This has led to me not just having a slight stay increase but instead my stats have taken a massive improvement. This is regardless of the issues of other players on my team.

If you find you are dropping in SR all likelyhood there is something you are just not seeing or you are looking at the wrong place to get the answers.

Sounds like a support main.

Reality Check: you cannot rank up as support. Drop healer/tank, pick up DPS. Even if you lose, so long as you overperform, you’ll get a performance SR boost. Do it a enough games in a row, and it’ll automatically send you up a rank. Rinse and repeat until you hit the performance SR cap, which folks say starts at 3500.

Sad truth, but thems the brakes.

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it almost seems as if the better you do, the matchmakers puts weaker team mates on your next game team and expects you to “hard carry”, which is impossible in a rock/paper/scissors type game.

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You can rank up as support if you play in a group with a competent team. Although solo queue as a support is a lot more difficult.

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I used to have the mindset that it wasn’t my fault we were losing games. I finally broke this by deciding what I could do best to improve my own performance. This made me realize I WAS making mistakes that went towards our loss. When I fixed my mistakes, I started to climb immense amounts of SR while flexing.

Another key to success is to never give up. I understand it is difficult, but I have won a 5 v 6 with a torbjorn who was building his turret in spawn for the entire match. The reason we won is because we kept fighting through, still exerting as much energy as we could.

I also learned that team compositions do not matter. I have solo tanked and solo healed in multiple games, still winning because we have more skill. I even won a match with symmetra and torbjorn on attack.

Always try to play to your maximum effort, and fix your mistakes. Keep your eye on the prize, and you will see a difference in your SR.

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Do what I did: start a new account and get placed 600 SR above my old account. I still play this one from time to time, but how can I both be mid-gold and high plat/diamond at the same time? I’m the same player but at gold it’s stomp or be stomped with very little carry opportunity.

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You gain SR either way for a win and lose SR when you lose. That isn’t the problem

The PROBLEM is that by and large people lose more SR when they lose even IF they performed better than they did during a win. Its ridiculous. The fact that I gain 22 SR for a win where I had 27 elims as gold medals, but when I have 50+ eliminations which is better than my average i lose 25-30+ SR for a loss when I performed well?? Are you kidding me???

People who UNDER PERFORM even during a win do not deserve more SR, they should get the arbitrary amount. People who perform better than their averages should get more SR.

The SR is not the participation trophy. Elims are the participation trophy that needs to be reworked into Kills, Assists and Deaths because all someone ha to do is tap someone to get credit. if I play Hanzo and I have 35 elims and 20 of them are solo kills and final blows I should be rewarded more than the Soldier who poked them a few times and moved to another target before they died so they still get that elimination credit.
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But that ALSO requires that the system not allow the eliminations which ARE the literal definition of a participation trophy.

Not gonna keep arguing with you. You clearly misunderstand the issue.

Absolutely. You’ll even get more SR for those wins as a support than you normally would.

It seems that if DPS overperforms, their skill bonus is distributed to their group players to some degree.

But yes. You cannot rank up as a solo queue support/tank.

It doesn’t matter if you have a 90% win rate as Mercy or Reinhart. MMR sees “you did nothing as a support/tank, despite scoring significantly higher than average stats”. You’ll get a lousy 5-15 SR per win. And then you’ll lose a single round and drop 70-100 SR.

Performance bonuses are only bestowed for damage/elims/final blows/solo kills, and you need the highest stats on the winning team to take home some of that performance bonus.

Getting Silver Elims and Gold Damage with a 28/0 and 2k damage/min in 7 minutes still means you only get a tiny portion of the performance bonus because someone beat you in at least one DPS category. You can take home maybe 20-40 SR out of a potential 70-100.

This actually makes your teammates the biggest obstacle to ranking up in solo queue. You have to compete with them for DPS roles, then you also have to overwhelmingly defeat the other team AND have the highest stats on your team to claim some of that SR bonus.

tl;dr version: In order to rank up as solo queue, you need to become a DPS main and consistently score the highest elims/damage/final blows/solo kills of all players on either team in a given match.

I lost over 600 rank this season. Worst season I have had and the majority of those loses were actually leavers and throwers. Been playing since the first round of closed beta too and have played every season. So after 8 or 9 seasons I somehow got worse and had the worst season ever. By a lot.

When players pad stats in a PBMM system and think it’s everyone else’s fault OMEGALUL

Really? That’s weird. I solo queued strictly from plat to Masters playing strictly tank. As in, this is my main account and I did that, I didn’t smurf. Stop pulling everyone else down just because you have to duo just to raise your SR a bit.

That’s incredible. Legit incredible.

Like, unbelievable. You must have had a 99% winrate. Because support/tank victories still only dole out 5-25 SR, even if you score gold elims, bronze damage, and gold objective time.

And the moment you get a round where your team isn’t the underdog and loses, you drop 70-100 SR, again, even if you score gold elims, bronze damage, and gold objective time. As tank/support.

You’d literally require a winrate above 90% to break even at those rates.

If you chose to play DPS instead, you can farm a ton of extra SR by being the top player in the match. Make sure you have more elims/damage/final blows than everyone else in the current match, on both teams, and you enjoy a fat +70-100 SR.

Really, I went from 2400 to 1800 playing Lucio. Scored insanely well as him. Well above average stats. Almost 60% winrate. Go ahead and check my profile.

When I hit 1800, I realized my winrate was plummetting (10 losses in a row) despite landing gold elims and bronze damage and gold healing and gold objective time. I can’t carry any harder as a Lucio main.

So I switched to DPS.

“We already have 3 DPS, we don’t need a 4th.”

“You’re a support main, play support!”

“Report him for gameplay sabotage, we need a healer and he’s trolling as 4th DPS.”

After just four rounds of going +28 elims/0 deaths with gold elims/damage, I shot up to about 2100. Over 300 SR in 4 games.

So, yes, I am speaking from experience. If you want to rank up, play DPS. How you managed as a tank, I cannot fathom. I guess your DPS was really really bad and you beat them on elims/damage, so you could take the performance bonus. Otherwise, no, you’d require an impossibly high winrate.

This is exactly what I decided to do this season - hone in on my skillsets and forget the rank. I have done very well this season and increased my player score by a ton.

500 SR loss later, it’s hard to say it’s been a rewarding experience.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I didn’t mean choose a class that your team needs, I meant within your class, play your role properly. E.g. (and I’m not saying you do this, it’s just an example) lay off the right click and left click a bit more if you’re Moira.

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Not really, I barely scrape Masters at 3663. Many others have done more impressive things like solo queueing bronze to diamond in a season. You might be hard stuck, doesn’t mean everyone is.

Don’t know if this is you trying to call me out or saying it’s impressive.

No. I usually have a 55 - 65% winrate. Across all seasons. I cant really bother to calculate the exact average but hey there’s a rough estimate.

Firstly, 25 Sr isn’t a bad amount. Secondly, 5 SR? Unheard of for me. Really. Thirdly, it’s PBSR or PBMM as in, it’s performance based on your characters average at your rank. Not medals.

Uh. No. Citation needed. This is a forum argument, so I usually don’t care about sources but a claim like that “losing 70 - 100 Sr” is unsubstantiated. Either double down and lose the argument, say it was hyberbole (which it wasn’t) or provide an actual citation to that wild claim

Might be that you suck and can’t meet the average standards of PBSR.

Odd. If I remember correctly, back when PBSR was across all ranks rather than just bronze-platinum, Mercy one tricks could maintain Masters with a 33% winrate. Surely you remember, as that was the final straw and everyone forced Blizzard to make the change? Unless you don’t, because you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about? Citation needed on the 70 - 100 SR. Don’t make wild claims like that.

What is “insanely well” to you? Did you actually meet the averages? Did you strictly play Lucio for 1400 SRs worth of games? Doubtful.

Really? I’m no psychologist, but if I’m not mistaken humans tend to reminisce on good parts of previous events and ignore bad parts. Confirmation bias. Motivated reasoning. Dunning-krueger effect. Look em up bud.

To be fair, having a 4th DPS isn’t exactly the most fun the to experience in Silver.

You didn’t gain 75 SR per game. You just did not. I don’t care about this being completely anectodal, because I also provided anectodal evidence, but you’re putting claims in that are so wild that they must be hyperbole.

Never experienced anything below platinum, so maybe that’s the case in silver games. Can’t really say.

Thanks for doubting my abilities as a tank player.
Also, it’s based off of averages of your character in your rank. You don’t understand how the PB Sr system works.

Really? You’re calling me out on unsubstantiated claims? You have absolutely no idea how the SR system works. Let’s look at your dumb claims.

implying medals matter compared to the averages of your character at your rank

Again. Motivated reasoning. Dunning-krueger effect. Confirmation bias. Look these 3 terms up and see how well these apply to you.

The hell is a player score?

It’s a score based on overall stats. A number of websites utilize it.